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White civil rights leader has pretended to be black for years

I did I think a while ago .. you post it I feel a bit shy to. ;)
you've posted it about four times on the boards now, not sure why shy now...I've got alot of problems with it and when i first read it i wanted to do a long post going through all the bits i thought were sus but i lost the will. In short it says I support trans people and their struggle and then dismisses every conceivable reason why someone would want to transition, leaving iirc mental illness as the only de facto explanation. not sure if this post is helpful, as should really pick through it as planned, but seeing it shared yet again with no critical comment irks me
 
On the Dolezal website, the blue lollipops are advertised as red.

I find it hard to believe that’s serious.

Though maybe I’ll go and have another rummage.

Edit: oh, ok, that is dead serious, isn’t it. Oh.
proper serious, she's moving from being an identity to becoming a brand based on monetising the usp of her 15 minutes of fame.
 
On the Dolezal website, the blue lollipops are advertised as red.

I find it hard to believe that’s serious.

Though maybe I’ll go and have another rummage.

Edit: oh, ok, that is dead serious, isn’t it. Oh.
She'll come up with some pretentious bullshit to justify it but it's basically a cheap play on her fame for being er... 'colour blind'.
 
How brave of her to renounce white privilege with the palpable enormous personal consequences it’s had on her academic career.
What a weird take from you. That’s exactly what the comments on the daily mail are saying, ha look just shows there’s no such thing as white privilege etc. She took up space in (stole) awards lists etc that were for black people.
 
I wonder how many other people there are out there like this? Its a bloody old trick. I was reading the other day about The Outlaw Josey Wales and the whole Forest Carter / Asa Earl Carter thing. Do people just think they can get away with it or just get caught up in the lie and are in too deep?
 
Are you also an unreformed child of the hood?



Very much so - where I grew up you either joined the YFC in Stroud or the YFC in Dursley, and they were in an neverending rivalry over sponsorship of the Christmas do.

It forced me into a life of crime - one time I towed a trailor that turned out to be too heavy for the catagory of licence I held. I was a proper fugitive and everything - fortunately the reputation for badness that my homies had meant that the PoPo didn't dare come into my barrio in the western Cotswolds.

I even had a Vanilla Ice album....
 
I wonder how many other people there are out there like this? Its a bloody old trick. I was reading the other day about The Outlaw Josey Wales and the whole Forest Carter / Asa Earl Carter thing. Do people just think they can get away with it or just get caught up in the lie and are in too deep?

I suspect lots of people do 'get away' with it. I mean, just think of all the White supremacists who claim their ancestry is 'pure' despite DNA evidence to the contrary.

When you get past the individual details of this quite confused and sad person, all this really shows is that categories like 'Black' and 'White' don't actually possess as much material importance as we think they do. All that matters is how you're perceived.
 
My first thought on reading this was how does someone pretend to be black? Won't your cunning plan fall through the instance someone sees you? Of course what she is claiming is that she has African ancestors at some point in her (recent) family history (though we all do if you are prepared to go back far enough). It's bad enough people obsess over someone's actual skin colour but it says something very disturbing about the kind of society the US is if anyone gives a shit about what skin colour your granparents or great-grandparents had.
 
Very much so - where I grew up you either joined the YFC in Stroud or the YFC in Dursley, and they were in an neverending rivalry over sponsorship of the Christmas do.

It forced me into a life of crime - one time I towed a trailor that turned out to be too heavy for the catagory of licence I held. I was a proper fugitive and everything - fortunately the reputation for badness that my homies had meant that the PoPo didn't dare come into my barrio in the western Cotswolds.

I even had a Vanilla Ice album....
The last is unforgiveable
 
It's their bizarre fixation on one strand of identity to the exclusion of all others that bemuses me - they're all 'I'm 1/64th Navaho, so, you know, I'm native American' (they do the same for German, or Scottish, or Irish, or 200 other heritages) while ignoring the 63/64th that isn't.

They are, and I recognise that not everyone will be able to grasp the complexity of this incisive societal critique, fucking barking.
 
My first thought on reading this was how does someone pretend to be black? Won't your cunning plan fall through the instance someone sees you? Of course what she is claiming is that she has African ancestors at some point in her (recent) family history (though we all do if you are prepared to go back far enough). It's bad enough people obsess over someone's actual skin colour but it says something very disturbing about the kind of society the US is if anyone gives a shit about what skin colour your granparents or great-grandparents had.
Ironically enough it fits well with the 'one drop' tradition of US racism.
 
My first thought on reading this was how does someone pretend to be black? Won't your cunning plan fall through the instance someone sees you? Of course what she is claiming is that she has African ancestors at some point in her (recent) family history (though we all do if you are prepared to go back far enough). It's bad enough people obsess over someone's actual skin colour but it says something very disturbing about the kind of society the US is if anyone gives a shit about what skin colour your granparents or great-grandparents had.

The legacy of the "one-drop rule" - laws to prevent interrracial marriage that maintained anybody with one drop of African blood should be considered Black - runs very deep in the US.

The legal notion of hypodescent has been upheld as recently as 1985, when a Louisiana court ruled that a woman with a black great-great-great-great-grandmother could not identify herself as “white” on her passport.

 
Very much so - where I grew up you either joined the YFC in Stroud or the YFC in Dursley, and they were in an neverending rivalry over sponsorship of the Christmas do.

It forced me into a life of crime - one time I towed a trailor that turned out to be too heavy for the catagory of licence I held. I was a proper fugitive and everything - fortunately the reputation for badness that my homies had meant that the PoPo didn't dare come into my barrio in the western Cotswolds.

I even had a Vanilla Ice album....
Could have headed out to the badlands beyond Waterley Bottom, no lawman ever braved the gauntlet going in there.
 
The legacy of the "one-drop rule" - laws to prevent interrracial marriage that maintained anybody with one drop of African blood should be considered Black - runs very deep in the US.




how do people even know this stuff? I can’t be the only one who doesn’t know with my great great great et cetera is
 
how do people even know this stuff? I can’t be the only one who doesn’t know with my great great great et cetera is

Same here - I've done lots of family history stuff and overwhelmingly it all gets very fuzzy by the 1700's, and that's in England, one of the most organised record keeping states around. I've got several strands of ancestors who just appear in places in the 17 and 1800's and even after 20+ years of research, I've been able to find no trace of where they came from or who they really were.
 
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