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Second of two (so far). First one I didn't get chance to take a pic of as it was over my house before I realised it wasn't a helicopter (we get a lot of those). Second one didn't go over my house unfortunately. Think this second one was different - "fatter". Both sounded alike though, the whine of the propellers was very prominent.

I see there's an airshow in Wycombe so they might be on their way there...but what is it?
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A400 M. Slightly less capable than the American C130 Hercules it's replacing.

The joys of our military procurement process. Still it's an Airbus, making it even easier for RAF types to fuck off to the airlines...
 
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A380 said:
A400 M. Slightly less capable than the American C130 Hercules it's replacing.
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It'll carry twice as much as a long wheelbase C-130 twice as far so it's hardly 'less capable'.

For an airforce the size of the RAF which doesn't have enough aircraft to do a USAF style strategic/tactical hub system a 'stratactical' lifter like the A400M makes a lot of sense.
 
A380 said:
A400 M. Slightly less capable than the American C130 Hercules it's replacing.

The joys of our military procurement process. Still it's an Airbus, making it even easier for RAF types to fuck off to the airlines...
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As the Dog notes, it's rather more capable than a C-130, it's just not quite as capable as Airbus said it would be - and more expensive.

Still, the A400M project has pretty much ensured that the UK will never buy anything off plan from Airbus ever again, and the chances of the UK taking part in any further European aircraft projects are, if not actually dead, then at least in the intensive care with both Ebola and a giant stake through the heart. So, you know..
 
DownwardDog said:
It'll carry twice as much as a long wheelbase C-130 twice as far so it's hardly 'less capable'.

For an airforce the size of the RAF which doesn't have enough aircraft to do a USAF style strategic/tactical hub system a 'stratactical' lifter like the A400M makes a lot of sense.
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I'd rather have spent the money on C17''s
 
kebabking said:
As the Dog notes, it's rather more capable than a C-130, it's just not quite as capable as Airbus said it would be - and more expensive.

Still, the A400M project has pretty much ensured that the UK will never buy anything off plan from Airbus ever again, and the chances of the UK taking part in any further European aircraft projects are, if not actually dead, then at least in the intensive care with both Ebola and a giant stake through the heart. So, you know..
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Chinese planes next :)
 
gosub said:
I'd rather have spent the money on C17''s
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We'd still something smaller - as, amusingly, the French and Germans have found: the great proponents of the A400M have both bought C-130's to do the SF work that the A400M has trouble with.

The A400M is legit, the C-130 has a fundamental problem with not being big enough to do non-SF tactical transport - vehicles have got bigger and heavier to cope with the endless IED threat, and the C-130 has reached the end of its stretchiness.
 
kebabking said:
We'd still something smaller - as, amusingly, the French and Germans have found: the great proponents of the A400M have both bought C-130's to do the SF work that the A400M has trouble with.

The A400M is legit, the C-130 has a fundamental problem with not being big enough to do non-SF tactical transport - vehicles have got bigger and heavier to cope with the endless IED threat, and the C-130 has reached the end of its stretchiness.
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What we are looking at right now re civil clearances I'd trade all that for uplift. Apron reversing not applicable in this case. But it does come in handy



Edit (on phone so can't do fancy write through of we to they. Fuck getting sucked @£65 a week)
 
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Me and my old man are going for an eye test in literary and windows to the soul




Remember my grandad still doesn't have that MBE not my dad a navy pension,
 
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I know it's a bad pic - I pressed video not photo on my phone like a bellend so this is a capture from that - but wondered if anyone could identify these helicopters? I'm used to coast guard and police choppers round here plus the odd Chinook but I've never seen these before, certainly not flying in formation (there were three in an arrow formation). DownwardDog A380



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I know it's a bad pic - I pressed video not photo on my phone like a bellend so this is a capture from that - but wondered if anyone could identify these helicopters? I'm used to coast guard and police choppers round here plus the odd Chinook but I've never seen these before, certainly not flying in formation (there were three in an arrow formation). DownwardDog A380



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Despite annoying my wife by shouting out the model of helicopter when we see one - it started ironically but now... - I’m not at all sure from those pictures. Looks like four rotor blades so, despite the look of the mast on the left hand side one, not Robinsons and the tails look wrong too. Size and colour? My guess if medium sized and military would be puma? I saw one in the helilanes on my walk to work this morning ( just after 9am) which isn’t that common. So if this morning and over London that could have been it. The don’t look pointy enough to be Augusta ( night be called something like Leonardo now?) Which sometimes fly in pairs or three from the Royal flight . But Otherwise I’ve failed...
 
Dark green or perhaps black. Pic taken ten mins before posting, over Immingham in NE Lincs

About the same size certainly no more than 25% bigger than yer average copper chopper.

The tail (?) was at a weird angle, 45 degrees from the body as far as I could see and was quite long
 
A380 said:
Could be. The Merlin tail rotor pylon is canted an an angle. But they are a bit more than twice the size of a (non-Met) police jobbie.

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Got some of them on Queen Elizabeth , Got told by someone useless at hurricane dust offs (I paraphrase) still willy waving with Canada is important..See the Canadian dollar rose considably today after the a Saudi attacks
 
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