Vixen said:I just finished it (Saturday) this morn. 'Twas great! In fact.. I'd seriously recommend it!
<edit: you're right about the main character though.. and just wait till you get to the debate/argument he has with his daughter. you'll like him even less then, i think.>
that's what someone said about the characters in atonement. it didn't really have that effect on me, i have to say. perhaps i'm more tolerant than i thought! i really enjoy the way he writes so perhaps that overrides the hatred for the middle-class smug spoilt characters in his books. i surprise myself actually as i do see what you mean.andy2002 said:I have around 80 pages to go and at this stage am not really enjoying it very much. I just don't like any of the characters – Henry, Daisy, Theo, Grammaticus are all just awful smug creatures. I actually want something horrible to happen to all of them.
Vixen said:that's what someone said about the characters in atonement. it didn't really have that effect on me, i have to say. perhaps i'm more tolerant than i thought! i really enjoy the way he writes so perhaps that overrides the hatred for the middle-class smug spoilt characters in his books. i surprise myself actually as i do see what you mean.
andy2002 said:. I just don't like any of the characters – Henry, Daisy, Theo, Grammaticus are all just awful smug creatures. I actually want something horrible to happen to all of them.
He is a bit too precise/ott yes, and I do wonder how accurate this is for the thoughts of a middle-aged successful neurosurgeon. I hadn't thought about it as showing off on McEwan's part, but I guess it could be.andy2002 said:I think the book has some lovely moments – the pages where Henry goes to visit his mum are particularly evocative and moving. But I'm finding it very difficult to get over my dislike of the characters (I actively loathe Daisy despite her opinions on the war being the same as mine) and McEwan's desire to show off what a clever chap he is by flaunting all the research he's done into neurosurgery. If you're going to write about a neurosurgeon, of course you have to know what you're talking about but its constant referencing just seems a bit pointless and forced to me.
Vixen said:I especially loved one of the references to evolution; man needing sleep but fearing being eaten; resolved at the present time by central locking. I think stuff like that makes up for the slightly spoilt and objectionable characters.
enduring love is wonderful. as is atonement. although with atonement you might find yourself disliking the characters - i didn't actually cos i'm a sucker for love/romance (i actually got my closing line for emails to my bf when he's away from that book ) - but can see why one might.andy2002 said:I'd be the first to admit it's beautifully written and that the book is certainly full of the kind of diverting, thoughtful passages you mention. I might try another of his books after I finish Saturday and see if I like it any better.
onemonkey said:The Birthday of the World - Ursula le Guin
Corkers both, but I'd be inclined to throw in a little light bollocks.laptop said:Mason and Dixon...
...Q.
laptop said:Right. Back to the rest of Mason and Dixon. Fucking ecellent.
And then maybe I'll finish Q.
Aye. Makes it tricky to read quickly, but I don't think it's as dense as Gravity's Rainbow. My laziness certainly skews my rating of his books- The Crying of Lot 49 seems to be widely hated and Vineland ignored. But I like 'em.siarc said:an overabundance of cartographicke folderol.
siarc said:an overabundance of cartographicke folderol.
laptop said:I've just finished Violent London - anyway, I've stopped dipping into it.
Some seriously impressive sentences; I have several whole new views of the Gordon Riots; but... oy! It's hard to read a book that so badly needs editing - "No! This paragraph belongs there, three pages back! And... who the fuck are you talking about? Who was Jeremiah Dubb? Explain now!"
andy2002 said:Finished Ian McEwan's "Saturday" over the weekend and thought its last 80 or so pages were pretty much excellent, with the ending particularly strong. I still hate most of the characters though.