sheetalmehak
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AM reading a book called "Managing to Learn" by Toyota veteran John Shook, which reveals the thinking underlying the vital A3 management process at the heart of management and leadership.
*What book are you reading? (part 2)
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Orang Utan
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Everyday Sexism - Laura Bates.
Essential reading for all men, especially those men who think the gender equality battle has been won.
Read this Johnny Vodka , Gromit and Johnny Canuck3 !
Essential reading for all men, especially those men who think the gender equality battle has been won.
Read this Johnny Vodka , Gromit and Johnny Canuck3 !
Johnny Vodka
The Abominable Scotsman
Everyday Sexism - Laura Bates.
Essential reading for all men, especially those men who think the gender equality battle has been won.
Read this Johnny Vodka , Gromit and Johnny Canuck3 !
I've read her stuff in The Guardian... and no thanks...
CosmikRoger
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Just finished The Hydrogen Sonata by Iain M Banks.
It was harder work than anything of his I've read before and the ending was piss poor, shame cos I liked the idea.
It was harder work than anything of his I've read before and the ending was piss poor, shame cos I liked the idea.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
Why's that? You'd benefit from it. Telling you what you need to know, fella.I've read her stuff in The Guardian... and no thanks...
Johnny Vodka
The Abominable Scotsman
Not really. Don't want to get into another feminism debate on a book thread, but The Guardian itself published a news article the other day about how male suicide rates are 3* that of women (not reflected in its cif articles, which still mainly focus on female issues; hardly anything on problems males face, when this statistic would scream that there's a great crisis facing men, and, in any case, it's more like 4*, as pointed out btl). I'm just not willing to explore the ideas in Ms Bates' book (well publicised in The Guardian, btw, and I have read many of these articles) until we expunge the idea that women have it so much harder than men. That is all.
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
It takes quite some doing for someone to be thicker than JohnnyCannuck, but you manage it with aplomb. Does your mummy still tie your shoelaces every morning?
Johnny Vodka
The Abominable Scotsman
No.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
Christ you are obtuse. Your prejudice is so ingrained you won't countenance the testimony of thousands of women.Not really. Don't want to get into another feminism debate on a book thread, but The Guardian itself published a news article the other day about how male suicide rates are 3* that of women (not reflected in its cif articles, which still mainly focus on female issues; hardly anything on problems males face, when this statistic would scream that there's a great crisis facing men, and, in any case, it's more like 4*, as pointed out btl). I'm just not willing to explore the ideas in Ms Bates' book (well publicised in The Guardian, btw, and I have read many of these articles) until we expunge the idea that women have it so much harder than men. That is all.
Johnny Vodka
The Abominable Scotsman
I'm not going to argue with you on this thread on this topic. I don't discount the experience of these women. I just think in mainstream western society men face equally serious problems - as the alarming statistic I quoted above proves (at least in my mind).
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
You won't argue cos you don't have a leg to stand on. And you won't listen to anything you are told. You are doomed with your attitude. 
The Wages of Destruction: The Making & Breaking of the Nazi Economy by Adam Tooze
I've seen this recommended a few times on these boards and I'd read some good reviews for it. I think it's about at the limit of my reading ability, so far the focus has been on the economy of late Weimar and the early Nazi regime. Not an easy read but already I'm finding it very interesting.
The Paying Guests by Sarah Waters
I've never read anything by her before and I didn't know anything about this book so I wasn't sure what to expect. Although I'm not far into it at all and nothing much has happened yet I'm enjoying it a lot - the writing is very good.
I've seen this recommended a few times on these boards and I'd read some good reviews for it. I think it's about at the limit of my reading ability, so far the focus has been on the economy of late Weimar and the early Nazi regime. Not an easy read but already I'm finding it very interesting.
The Paying Guests by Sarah Waters
I've never read anything by her before and I didn't know anything about this book so I wasn't sure what to expect. Although I'm not far into it at all and nothing much has happened yet I'm enjoying it a lot - the writing is very good.
Johnny Vodka
The Abominable Scotsman
You won't argue cos you don't have a leg to stand on. And you won't listen to anything you are told. You are doomed with your attitude.
No.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
Seriously, read the book. A higher suicide rate does not equal thousands of years of inequality. If you don't see that, you're an irredeemable chauvinist who cannot entertain and learn from other people's points of view.
Johnny Vodka
The Abominable Scotsman
It's about the position now, because that's what matters - the people living now and how society uses its resources. If you read the news article in The Guardian (http://www.theguardian.com/society/...ides-uk-increases-2013-male-rate-highest-2001), you'll also deduce that, for example, men drink more heavily than women (why is this...?). Men face massive issues in society and, if this news article had been about an important issue affecting women, you can bet there would already have been a number of spin-off cif pieces.
I don't need to read the book you're discussing - because it's been promoted heavily in The Guardian and I've already read countless pieces referring to it. It's been so heavily promoted I already feel like I've read it. Like I said, I'm not dismissive of issues affecting women - but, given the widest picture, I don't think we need to treat women in mainstream British society as a disadvantaged group. If you think that makes me an 'irredeemable chauvinist', it's you that's deluded - you're the one unwilling to consider any statistics that might show men have it tough.
THE END.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
It's not the end. You ARE dismissive of sexism. In almost every single post of yours. You are a dinosaur.
I think we all have it tough, but to trot out higher suicide figures as if this negates patriarchy is just disingenuous bullshit.
I think we all have it tough, but to trot out higher suicide figures as if this negates patriarchy is just disingenuous bullshit.
Johnny Vodka
The Abominable Scotsman
You misrepresent me and clearly don't understand the entirety of my argument, but I'm not arguing with you any more in this thread.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
I've heard your so-called argument many times land it's bullshit. You need to listen.
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sovereignb
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Just finished The Circle by David Eggers. 1984 for the 21st century. Very enjoyable
Maurice Picarda
Actually, might as well flounce.
I don't think he's ever worked in an office in his life. It just wasn't convincing as a tech firm, not even by way of parody.
sovereignb
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i didnt think Circle was supposed to be your everyday office though.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
just finished a collection of shortish essays 'Misconception about the Middle ages' by various.
enjoyed this one particularly 'The Myth of The Mounted Knight' (the whole lots free to read online and not long)
enjoyed this one particularly 'The Myth of The Mounted Knight' (the whole lots free to read online and not long)
Maurice Picarda
Actually, might as well flounce.
No, but if it's not plausibly dystopian and not plausibly satirical, what's the point?
sovereignb
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i actually thought it was quite plausible dystopia!
Orang Utan
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I beg your pardon?
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