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Universal Credit (UC) and PIP together

Badgers definitely check the local law centre if there is one, her debts can all be consolidated in a single afgfordable payment which when explained to creditors usually means they will wait to see if you get financially better off bfore coming after you as the total debt gets pai dvia a single weekly payment you can afford shared between all creditors.

**hope this makes sense to you, it does to me, PM me if not for long version

SheilaNaGig claim it all yesterday!
Brixton law centre on railton road down the road if I remember correclty your location, nice helpful lot helped me loads in the past (including a now gone urbanite).
 
Yesterday...?
:confused:

I think it was meant metaphorically. You can apply for back payments sometimes, but I think you, personally, probably wouldn't be able to - though there's no harm in asking.

How's your claim going? If you still haven't got it in, message me. I need distraction from MA work so will probably be very productive in anything that isn't that.
 
Good luck with pipping SheilaNaGig - really pleased about the UC 'apprival, really pissed off that you're getting so little x

The bastards are trying to set me up for a phone assessment, which isn't something I can cope with at the moment - I end e up screaming at the woman I spoke to last week who said they hadn't contacted my GP because I left the phone number off the form and it wasn't up to them to Google it :mad:

They make me feel like prey.
I'm getting my lovely sensible GP to try intervene on my behalf via a strongly worded letter. Sorry for venting on here, but they're the only Enemy who have control over my income->health->housing security. Ugh.
 
I’ve been granted UC. Thank fuck. And they put the first payment into my account today, a month early, as a loan. To be paid back over 12 months out of my UC payments.

So I’m granted 409.89 per month, with 34 taken out each month to repay this “loan”.

So that’s 93 per week to live on. Yay.

Next stop, PIP.

It might end up being more, depending on which group you're eventually put in.
 
The 409 is the standard amount they give to single claimants. If you are moved into the limited capability for work related activity group, you would then be entitled to extra (341 a month). You need to complete a Work Capability Assessment for this and should speak to the jobcentre about this ASAP.

PiP rate will vary but is split into two sections; mobility and daily living. Each section has a ‘standard’ and ‘enhanced’ rate. Depending on what you get, you could get an extra 60 to 150 a week.
 
just a thought - i'm aware that UC now includes what used to be housing benefit, but if i understand right, you have to claim what used to be council tax benefit separately.

(obviously you may already have dealt with this)

this is lambeth's page on the subject - of not in lambeth then try again via your local council's website.
 
Possibly already been posted but you can do a dummy version of the test here to see how you'll do


As they're not actually doing face to face assessments, I'd recommend just going for gold basically. I had it all done and ready to post when I suddenly got a job. But I was actually eligible for it through having a long term injury and they would have backdated it six months as i had no idea i could even claim it.
 
The 409 is the standard amount they give to single claimants. If you are moved into the limited capability for work related activity group, you would then be entitled to extra (341 a month). You need to complete a Work Capability Assessment for this and should speak to the jobcentre about this ASAP.

PiP rate will vary but is split into two sections; mobility and daily living. Each section has a ‘standard’ and ‘enhanced’ rate. Depending on what you get, you could get an extra 60 to 150 a week.

PIP only has one mobility component these days, which has made it harder to get.

You're right about UC, but the term for that group is limited capability for work and work-related activity, otherwise known as LCWRA. If you're in the next group down, merely limited capability for work, known as LCW, you don't get any extra money, but you don't get pressured to hunt for work. That second group used to be known as WRAG - the work-related activity group - so it's important to be very precise with the terms. (To complicate things further, some people are still in WRAG, if they were put into it before 2017, and it still exists for income-related ESA, but Sheila can't get that).

Sorry if this seems nit-picky, but it's important to get it exactly right. The system punishes you if you don't.
 
Possibly already been posted but you can do a dummy version of the test here to see how you'll do


As they're not actually doing face to face assessments, I'd recommend just going for gold basically. I had it all done and ready to post when I suddenly got a job. But I was actually eligible for it through having a long term injury and they would have backdated it six months as i had no idea i could even claim it.

PiP is not means tested and people in employment are still entitled to it. If you are entitled, claim it.
 
I had it all done and ready to post when I suddenly got a job.

i may have misunderstood you, but

this says that "You can get PIP whether you’re working or not." i also believe it's not means tested although it doesn't say that in so many words. (the principle with whatever the equivalent was when i did benefits work is that if you had - for example - additional mobility needs then those would apply if you were working or not.
 
PIP only has one mobility component these days, which has made it harder to get.

You're right about UC, but the term for that group is limited capability for work and work-related activity, otherwise known as LCWRA. If you're in the next group down, merely limited capability for work, known as LCW, you don't get any extra money, but you don't get pressured to hunt for work. That second group used to be known as WRAG - the work-related activity group - so it's important to be very precise with the terms. (To complicate things further, some people are still in WRAG, if they were put into it before 2017, and it still exists for income-related ESA, but Sheila can't get that).

Sorry if this seems nit-picky, but it's important to get it exactly right. The system punishes you if you don't.

Apologies for missing out the ‘and’ whilst typing. Well aware LCW doesn’t exist any longer (not in any financial capacity at any rate). :)
 
Also when did they get rid of enhanced mobility? They are still showing it on the gov uk website?! They got rid of the severe disability premium but that’s totally different.
 
i may have misunderstood you, but

this says that "You can get PIP whether you’re working or not." i also believe it's not means tested although it doesn't say that in so many words. (the principle with whatever the equivalent was when i did benefits work is that if you had - for example - additional mobility needs then those would apply if you were working or not.

It's definitely not related to work and is definitely not related to your savings or assets. Like I said, David Blunkett received it.
 
Also when did they get rid of enhanced mobility? They are still showing it on the gov uk website?! They got rid of the severe disability premium but that’s totally different.

:facepalm: Sorry, you're totally right, and I've accidentally proven that being totally accurate is important! :D There used to be three levels for the care component, and the mobility component has been made much harder to get. Thanks for correcting me.
 
it's almost as if they keep buggering about with it to stop anyone understanding it...

(i gave up trying to keep on top of the detail years ago)

They have, but there are some core principles when applying for disability / sickness benefits that remain exactly the same regardless;

  • seek specialist advice and support
  • plan before you start your application. Have a look through the form and questions and make notes on how each one is affected by whatever is going on for you
  • go through all your medication (if you take any) and look through the side effects in the leaflet. If you experience any of those, make notes of which ones and how they impact on the questions being asked on the form
  • gather medical evidence if you have any
  • answer everything as if it is your worst day. Follow things up with a ‘but’ to be clear that even if you can dress yourself for example, there is a longer term knock on impact on you as a result
  • talk through your notes with someone before filling in the form. Someone objective can often spot connections you haven’t made about how your condition affects you
  • always appeal if unsuccessful, the statistics are very much on your side
 
They have, but there are some core principles when applying for disability / sickness benefits that remain exactly the same regardless;

  • seek specialist advice and support
  • plan before you start your application. Have a look through the form and questions and make notes on how each one is affected by whatever is going on for you
  • go through all your medication (if you take any) and look through the side effects in the leaflet. If you experience any of those, make notes of which ones and how they impact on the questions being asked on the form
  • gather medical evidence if you have any
  • answer everything as if it is your worst day. Follow things up with a ‘but’ to be clear that even if you can dress yourself for example, there is a longer term knock on impact on you as a result
  • talk through your notes with someone before filling in the form. Someone objective can often spot connections you haven’t made about how your condition affects you
  • always appeal if unsuccessful, the statistics are very much on your side

Excellent list.

WRT the side effects, I took out the actual side effects leaflets, highlighted and underlined the ones I get (to make sure they'd show up when they were photocopied or scanned), and then added them into the very, very long extra section, with concrete examples of them happening. It helps to remind you of what the effects are, and provides proof that those are known side-effects.

Someone on here might have advised me to do that - I can't recall right now.

Concrete examples also help but you need to phrase them as "for example," to make it clear that it wasn't a one-off.

I also scanned the entire fucking thing in to my computer and photocopied it all so that I had an extra copy. My ex took the physical copies of my daughter's forms when she left, just to fuck with me, but I still had the scans in my email, so yah boo sucks to her. They're useful for the physical assessment and for any renewal.

What I think is difficult this year is gathering medical evidence, due to so many "non-urgent" appointments being cancelled and treatments being delayed. I think we're going to have to go to appeal for my daughter's PIP renewal because not only were her CAMHS appointments all cancelled, but her GP retired, her Wellness coordinator at college left, and nobody else has ever met her in person because, well, they're not allowed to. They haven't even spoken to her on the phone much because she finds that so difficult and has to put it on speaker for me to handle it, which is evidence in itself, but for the GP, it's less evidence that they can use to back you up.

But we will do the mandatory reconsideration and appeal if it comes to it. You always have to be prepared for that to happen.

I think you can send in extra evidence after sending off the form - I'd have to check, but two years ago that was allowed.

Sorry for the aside, Sheila!
 
go through all your medication (if you take any) and look through the side effects in the leaflet. If you experience any of those, make notes of which ones and how they impact on the questions being asked on the form

i think we may have missed that when i helped friend with ESA claim a few years back

can you take a friend with you to a PIP assessment? I went with friend to his ESA assessment, and it makes it harder for them to lie about what you've said...
 
My super naive friend took a PRIEST as security and they still lied. Always ask for a recording as well as a companion.

You don't have to ask for a companion, that's simply allowed. And yeah, they will usually still lie - but not always.
 
Yeah, sorry I didn't clarify that very well - you don't need permission for a companion. IME they assume my mate is a support worker and quiz them about my condition if i can't answer quick enough.
Ugh.

Recording wise, pip assessments are phone based at the mo (if just the form and evidence aren't sufficient for them to assess your claim) and the assessor will provide a recording but you need to phone and specifically request them to do it well in advance. They can also patch in a 3rd party support person of your choice into the call if you like.
 
answer everything as if it is your worst day. Follow things up with a ‘but’ to be clear that even if you can dress yourself for example, there is a longer term knock on impact on you as a result
I wouldn't even say yes with a 'but' tacked on the end. Always 'no' unless you have no trouble doing that thing unaided and "safely, to an acceptable standard, repeatedly and in a reasonable time" even on a bad day.

Yes I can dress myself but...
NO, I cannot dress myself safely without assistance due to my balance issues. For example, I recently fell and injured myself while attempting to get dressed without help (see GP notes on page x of attached evidence)
NO, I cannot dress myself to a reasonable standard as my [disability/injury/medical condition] means I am unable to judge what clothing is suitable / can't do up zips and buttons / often end up wearing dirty clothing / etc. because xyz
NO, I cannot dress myself repeatedly as putting tops on or off exacerbates the pain in my shoulder. For example, if I spill food on myself after getting dressed I have to spend the rest of the day in soiled clothing as it would be to painful to change my clothes.
NO, I cannot dress myself in a reasonable time as I move very slowly and need to stop and rest due to pain and fatigue.
(For example - add more detail to your own answers obvs)

If doing one activity means you won't be able to do another in the same morning/day/etc., make that clear.

Look at the descriptors for each activity to see which you think applies to you and use that wording in your answers.
 
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