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ULU president nicked and given extreme bail conditions

You have to use some judgement with these things obviously. Sometimes a police bail condition will tell you not to do something that's already illegal anyway, better not to break that sort. Sometimes they'll give you conditions which amount to placing you under curfew, even for a trivial offence. You have to ask yourself if they're likely to bother parking an unmarked police car across the street from your house for a couple of months to make sure you don't slip out to the chippy after dark.

Even if you get caught breaking police bail you might well get away with it if you can argue that it was unfair to place the conditions on you in the first place. If a curfew or an exclusion zone prevented you from working or seeing a partner or family member, that sort of thing.
 
Hocus Eye. said:
I often wonder why the police in London act in such a politically partisan way. Surely they have enough on their plate without leading attacks on political protest?. It is as if they see themselves as the natural enemy of students. Are they just bored and in need of a bit of excitement or for that matter incitemen? :mad:
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The police like telling people what to do, and beating people up. Protests provide them with ample opportunities for both. I don't think there's a huge amount of ideology at work tbh.

Also a protest is basically a deliberate challenge to the will of some authority or other. Police know there's a handful of police and a fucking shitload of people who are not police, and that many of those people actively hate the police. I suspect on some level they consider any kind of threat or challenge to any kind of authority to be an implied threat to them personally. Without the public's obedience and fear of authority every single copper in the country would be face down in a canal by teatime. Hardly surprising that they don't like disobedience. It's the same reason I don't like crocodiles.
 
Agree with spooky that for a lot of coppers public order work is an extension of their duties re. keeping the peace, with the added potential of a fight.
 
Hocus Eye. said:
I often wonder why the police in London act in such a politically partisan way. Surely they have enough on their plate without leading attacks on political protest?. It is as if they see themselves as the natural enemy of students. Are they just bored and in need of a bit of excitement or for that matter incitemen? :mad:
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Ever since 2011 and the student riots, the Met police (and the police elsewhere I imagine) have been using bail conditions to control protest and prevent protestors from protesting - it's a way of attempting to control people who haven't even been charged/convicted. It's happened with anti-fash demos, critical mass/the Olympics, student protests, the UK Uncut actions etc etc. Using bail is just another police tactic.

The current police strategy seems to be a) wait for a big protest, b) book a load of buses, c) kettle/round-up the protestors, mass arrest them, stick them on the buses and take them to the cop shop, d) give them bail conditions saying they can't protest. Hey presto, hundreds of people suddenly banned from the next demo.
 
Brixton Hatter said:
EThe current police strategy seems to be a) wait for a big protest, b) book a load of buses, c) kettle/round-up the protestors, mass arrest them, stick them on the buses and take them to the cop shop, d) give them bail conditions saying they can't protest. Hey presto, hundreds of people suddenly banned from the next demo.
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How long can the police hold you if you refuse their unreasonable conditions. If you've not been charged how long till they have to release you these days without going to court. You see people who've been arrested and released on police bail waiting months for the cops to do anything? I wonder if it'd be better holding out for a bit to save months dangling on police string.
 
Santino said:
Parts of Senate House have been occupied.
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there's an article about this in the standard which made my blood boil, partly because of the ignorance of the comments by chris cobb, partly because of the police violence: http://www.standard.co.uk/news/lond...ir-hair-as-police-break-up-sitin-8984395.html

i think he'd find the suffragettes did somewhat more than block fire escapes and invade work spaces: and as an ex-lse man he should know something about occupations. and of course it's hardly democratic to abolish ulu without giving students some say in the matter. at least you expect the police to show some degree of brutality; i, for one, don't expect a senior university administrator to be such a shit in public.
 
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Editor of London Student has been arrested today(in handcuffs!), ironically nothing on mainstream media.
 
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Arrests of students, bans on political protest at Sheffield Uni, suspension of students at Sussex Uni, physical assaults on students in London and now this...

Is this coordinated?
 
Disgraceful! AIUI this demonstration was not violent in any way. Just people making their views on the matter public. The police should have just stood back.
 
In the past month universities across the country have been subject to unprecedented levels of violence from the police, targeting a resurgent wave of activism against the privatisation of the university system.

Across the country, students are initiating a vibrant, popular, winnable fight for democratic and public universities, free from exploitation and repression. We cannot be beaten if we stand together.

In the past week, police have violently evicted, beaten, and arrested students from peaceful occupations in London and sent undercover police officers to spy on students, arresting 3/4s of the union sabbatical team. They have attempted to recruit students to act as informers against fellow student activists in Cambridge, and attacked protests against outsourcing in Sussex. Across the country, managements are using injunctions and violence to suppress dissent; at Birmingham, students were threatened with
£25,000 court costs.

The scale of the police’s response has never been witnessed on British universities. Students beaten, strangled, having teeth punched out, dragged across roads, and violently bundled into vans. This cannot be allowed to continue.

The violence of the police is not just a student or education issue. For years the Metropolitan police have been able to beat, arrest and murder citizens in London with impunity; the IPCC functioning as nothing more than cover for unaccountable, systematic violence.

Groups all over the country are calling for a national day of action on Wednesday December 11th – with local action and a demonstration in London. This event is being set up as a reaction to this call; we are relaying this call for urgent solidarity.

***What is #copsoffcampus?***

We stand for an education that is public and democratic, free for all. Campuses should be places for inquiry, critical thinking and dissent. Across the country, students and workers are fighting for that vision. Students and workers united hold all of the legitimate power. We are the people who give our institutions life and make them function.

The only power that management ultimately has is police and state violence. They can’t win the argument, but they can – and do – call in the cops, assault and intimidate us. With an agenda of austerity, the authorities are behaving in an ever more violent and repressive way.

Our response is to mobilise harder.

Meet at 2pm at the University of London Union (ULU)
If you cannot make it to London on the day, or want to stay local, do something on you campus.

• #copsoffcampus
• Democratic campuses, public education
• Solidarity with staff and the fair pay strikes
• Stop the privatisation of student debt.
• Against the police/austerity agenda
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