Ultra Low Emission Zone (ULEZ)

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Thousands of appeals against London's Ultra Low Emission Zone fines upheld

 

[Teaboy]

Thousands of appeals against London's Ultra Low Emission Zone fines upheld

Yeah the biggest reason appeals are upheld seems to just be rental car companies appealing and getting the ticket redirected to the person who hired the car. I'm a bit surprised there are that many rental cars out there that don't meet the criteria.

 

[alex_]

Annoying that those of us living in zone 2 have to wait another two years to see similar benefits.

it needs to be phased - they can’t piss off too many people at once

 

[Winot]

it needs to be phased - they can’t piss off too many people at once

A risk for Sadiq having the outer zone come in after the mayoral election. Although if he is re-elected then it makes it pretty bomb-proof politically.

 

[alex_]

A risk for Sadiq having the outer zone come in after the mayoral election. Although if he is re-elected then it makes it pretty bomb-proof politically.

it makes sense to apply it to the area with smallest richest population, demonstrate the benefits and then apply it further.

 

[RubyToogood]

it makes sense to apply it to the area with smallest richest population, demonstrate the benefits and then apply it further.

It doesn't apply to people who actually live in Central London but to people who travel in.

 

[T & P]

it needs to be phased - they can’t piss off too many people at once

And also combined with a government funded contribution towards a buying a cleaner car. Many countries in Europe hold regular schemes whereby they contribute 1 or 2 thousand euros towards a new vehicle if you surrender your old car. They generally are very successful campaigns.

 

[teuchter]

And also combined with a government funded contribution towards a buying a cleaner car. Many countries in Europe hold regular schemes whereby they contribute 1 or 2 thousand euros towards a new vehicle if you surrender your old car. They generally are very successful campaigns.

For work vehicles like vans - maybe.

For cars? No way.

 

[Teaboy]

So this is happening in a few days, or at least the extension of the zone out to the North & South Circular (but not actually including either road).

ULEZ: New pollution charge zone to begin in London

Drivers of older, more polluting vehicles will have to pay a fee to enter an extended zone in the city.

www.bbc.co.uk

I found out Bath also has one of these too. Likely coming to a town near you soon as well I would have thought.

 

[teuchter]

Looking forward to it.

 

[Elpenor]

So this is happening in a few days, or at least the extension of the zone out to the North & South Circular (but not actually including either road).

ULEZ: New pollution charge zone to begin in London

Drivers of older, more polluting vehicles will have to pay a fee to enter an extended zone in the city.

www.bbc.co.uk

I found out Bath also has one of these too. Likely coming to a town near you soon as well I would have thought.

Bristol, Brum and Portsmouth too, I believe.

 

[not-bono-ever]

Get a pre 81 v8 monster to patrol the ULEZ zone for free. Or a 15 year old petrol shitbox for pennies

 

[Teaboy]

Get a pre 81 v8 monster to patrol the ULEZ zone for free. Or a 15 year old petrol shitbox for pennies

4/5 cars in London are apparently already compliant so I think I'll just stick with the car I already have.

 

[hash tag]

The ULEZ thing is nuts. My 18 year old 3.2 V6 is a heavy drinker, yet compliant.

 

[alex_]

The ULEZ thing is nuts. My 18 year old 3.2 V6 is a heavy drinker, yet compliant.

It’s particulates not fuel usage, assume your car is a euro 5 petrol ?

 

[toblerone3]

The ULEZ is being expanded again. to cover the whole of London. But we need to go so much further and faster. We need distance-based Road Charging now.

Mayor announces plans to expand Ultra Low Emission Zone London-wide

 

[hash tag]

I am surprised distance based charging has happened or at least talked about much more already.
I gather the technology to impleement this has existed for a while now.

 

[alex_]

I am surprised distance based charging has happened or at least talked about much more already.
I gather the technology to impleement this has existed for a while now.

The more cameras they rollout the easier this will be.

Assume you’d need to buy something which attaches to your car and records time/location/distance ?

 

[teuchter]

From the statement -

The Mayor will say in his speech that the long-term and fairest solution to these challenges will ultimately be smart road user charging. This would enable all existing road user charges, such as the Congestion Charge and ULEZ, to be scrapped and replaced with a smarter, simpler and fair scheme that charges motorists on a per mile basis. This could allow for different rates to be charged depending on how polluting vehicles are, the level of congestion in the area and access to public transport.

Sadiq Khan has asked TfL to start exploring how this concept could be developed, however TfL is still many years away from being ready to implement such a scheme.

 

[hash tag]

The more cameras they rollout the easier this will be.

Assume you’d need to buy something which attaches to your car and records time/location/distance ?

Something like average speed cameras and congestion charging ones

 

[alex_]

Something like average speed cameras and congestion charging ones

Could enforce 20mph zones too.

 

[hash tag]

Could enforce 20mph zones too.

They certainly could, but not enough of them. There are enough to enforce congestion charging and ulez. It would take much to enforce speed limits coupled with pay by distance.

 

[teuchter]

All possible with black box recorders in cars, which if you could make compulsory for driving on the public roads, would allow all the clutter and expense of roadside signage, cameras and so on to be got rid of entirely.

 

[ska invita]

Can anyone find any stats if air quality has improved? Anecdotally I think it has.

 

[platinumsage]

All possible with black box recorders in cars, which if you could make compulsory for driving on the public roads, would allow all the clutter and expense of roadside signage, cameras and so on to be got rid of entirely.

I doubt it. Even the DLR has signs.

 

[teuchter]

I doubt it. Even the DLR has signs.

It has hardly any at all.

 

[DJWrongspeed]

ULEZ expansion announced

It's going to hurt but better in the long run. Goes live 29th Aug'23
We wouldn't be in this mess if BoJo, when mayor, had addressed the pressing issue.

The Greater London Authority (GLA) Conservatives described the opposition as "overwhelming" and "staggering" and criticised the mayor for pushing ahead with the plans despite the public response.

 

[ska invita]

ULEZ expansion announced

It's going to hurt but better in the long run.

supposedly already halved the pollution in London - I'm thankful for it

 

[marty21]

Could enforce 20mph zones too.

I was fined 3 times in the early days of those so yeah they are enforced .

 

[marty21]

The ULEZ is being expanded again. to cover the whole of London. But we need to go so much further and faster. We need distance-based Road Charging now.

Mayor announces plans to expand Ultra Low Emission Zone London-wide

My 10 year old Golf is still compliant , I don't know how many cars will have to pay .