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Ultra Low Emission Zone (ULEZ)

hmm reading about the Tory voters in Uxbridge still being annoyed about ulez..

so what I'd they are angry they have 11 years of Boris pouncing around doing nothing for the borough and still voted Tory again
 
Is this an actual hunger strike as in we won't eat until either our demands are met or we starve to death? Or we'll just sit and not eat for the weekend and then hit the curry house on Sunday night kind of hunger strike?
 
Is this an actual hunger strike as in we won't eat until either our demands are met or we starve to death? Or we'll just sit and not eat for the weekend and then hit the curry house on Sunday night kind of hunger strike?
Seems to be more on the fasting type end of the spectrum. The Sikh guy did a seven day 'hunger strike' the other month however I haven't seen any definition or rules about intake etc.
 
hmm will say anyone who signed on to autopay should check their account regularly

they use AI to check plates and had 2 flags up on the folk account

mother has an 2012 diesel jag with no mileage and she love the bloody thing
and lives about 2 miles inside the zone, drives it about 2 days a week if that

her plate has been flagged twice by Cameras in central london and it turn out to be a merc with a similar plate tailgating someone
:facepalm:
 
hmm will say anyone who signed on to autopay should check their account regularly

they use AI to check plates and had 2 flags up on the folk account

mother has an 2012 diesel jag with no mileage and she love the bloody thing
and lives about 2 miles inside the zone, drives it about 2 days a week if that

her plate has been flagged twice by Cameras in central london and it turn out to be a merc with a similar plate tailgating someone
:facepalm:
Does the Ai also detect the cars colour of just numberplate I wonder? It's not 100% guaranteed the camera will read the plate correctly but the colour of the car would give a second reference point on the dvla database there hasn't been a mis-read.
It would be in theory possible to change the number plate format to include a 'checksum' letter on the end which would prevent mis-reads much like messages have on the net to detect message corruption.
 
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no surprises here - Mrs Tags tiny little 850 CC Micra did not qualify
The tax already exists. It's called VED. And instead of something nebulous and not directly linked to CO2 emissions like vehicle size, it is actually based on CO2 emissions. Now there's a very good argument that the top bands should be more punitive, but we don't need an additional sort of vehicle tax where a perfectly good one already exists. (In relation to climate altering emissions. There's a whole thing about size and how it affects other things in the Other Thread.)
 
no surprises here - Mrs Tags tiny little 850 CC Micra did not qualify
My 50cc tiny scooter didn’t either. And I would bet all my possessions not because it actually produced an unacceptable amount of emissions, but simply because of its date of manufacture.

I’m all for the principle of ULEZ and the reasons behind it, but there’s little doubt in my mind there will have been countless thousands of vehicles falling foul of ULEZ that should have not been. A tiny 50cc petrol engine scooter breaching the ULEZ emissions threshold is something I struggle to believe is correct.
 
ULEZ is about air pollution not climate change.
Agreed. And that was actually kind of my point (if you were replying to my post). I am almost sure I’m right in saying that all motorcycles manufactured before a certain cut-off date (2006?) were made non-ULEZ compliant by default. Perhaps someone with a good mechanics knowledge can correct me, but I fail to see how a miniscule 50cc petrol engine could possibly cause enough pollution to fall foul of the ULEZ threshold. Meanwhile, my work’s 1300cc petrol Suzuki Carry manufactured in 2001 is compliant. I remain to be shown how a 1300cc engine from 2001 doesn’t exceed the ULEZ limits, but a 50cc engine does.

As a result I ditched my 50cc scooter, which had a few more years in it, and bought a much heavier 400cc bike. I’m delighted with it but I suspect my net emission contribution to London’s skies is worse not better due to ULEZ.
 
20 years ago, most 50cc motors didn't even pretend to have emissions controls on them. They just blat raw exhaust out. Most/all of them are 2 stroke as well, which farts out even worse stuff. You'd be amazed at what modern emissions controls do and just how fucking awful the air would be without them. There was a time in LA when a brand new car could exhaust cleaner air than it took in.
 
20 years ago, most 50cc motors didn't even pretend to have emissions controls on them. They just blat raw exhaust out. Most/all of them are 2 stroke as well, which farts out even worse stuff. You'd be amazed at what modern emissions controls do and just how fucking awful the air would be without them. There was a time in LA when a brand new car could exhaust cleaner air than it took in.
Didn’t know that. FWIW, my old scooter was a two-stroke one.
 
1 month down the road and the protests have died down and it appears to be working.

hmm read this in Hounslow this morning watching the 15th plane of the day going over the house at 9am

thanks ulez the air is so much better :)

anyways got my 2 grand so should not grumble

odd the DVLA want more road tax than the last car but hey ho
 
hmm read this in Hounslow this morning watching the 15th plane of the day going over the house at 9am

thanks ulez the air is so much better :)

anyways got my 2 grand so should not grumble

odd the DVLA want more road tax than the last car but hey ho
no such thing as 'Road Tax' since the 1930s
 
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