Ultra Low Emission Zone (ULEZ)
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Agree, I’m making the point Paris has a hard ban on very old cars
Yes, really poor people cannot afford cars.
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
But it's poorer people who are saying that.
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
Not to mention he's got brown skin and is a Muslim...
Leafster
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One person on my local FB group even went as far as to say he ought to go back to his 'native country'.
Although this was followed by someone else saying "What, Tooting?"
Chz
Stark Raving Sane
I've said a few times before in this forum that I don't particularly care for Khan. He doesn't really have any new ideas and is doing his best to bland his way through to the next election.
But then I see the people who hate, no loathe him. And I think I really don't like those people very much. Thinly veiled racism, heck not-at-all veiled racism, and so on... So maybe I should support Khan just a bit, because I really don't like the idea of the people who hate him getting their way.
But then I see the people who hate, no loathe him. And I think I really don't like those people very much. Thinly veiled racism, heck not-at-all veiled racism, and so on... So maybe I should support Khan just a bit, because I really don't like the idea of the people who hate him getting their way.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
tbh I don't agree with the exemption for 40+ years-old cars. People who run very old cars for a hobby really should be getting themselves a different hobby. Sorry, tough shit.
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
tbf, he's done more or less what he said he would on fares, and he has supported new council flat schemes. He is a bland centrist, but he's a massive step up from Johnson.
Without changing his position, he's moved from a long way to the right to slightly to the left of the Labour leadership.
hash tag
Books, not bombs
Thatll be Ms Dorries then, who appeared to do very little.
There are so few of them it doesn’t really matter.
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
Nah, she like's to get on the box too much, out of sight, out of mind is my preference, please.
Griff
Hardly posting anymore
Not really a hobby, in my case I drive a car I like which I owned before ULEZ. I'll leave the soul-less modern cars for other people
Thanks for telling me what do.
Appreciate it. It's exempt, so sorry tough shit.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Well done for totally missing the point. You don't just get to drive whatever you like whenever you like for nothing. None of us does. Other people exist as well as you.Not really a hobby, in my case I drive a car I like which I owned before ULEZ. I'll leave the soul-less modern cars for other people
Thanks for telling me what do.
It's exempt, so sorry tough shit.
Chz
Stark Raving Sane
By law, no. Nothing sold after September 2015 will be non-compliant. I'm pretty sure the vast majority of those cars won't be diesel either, so 20 year old ones should also be compliant.
Griff
Hardly posting anymore
What point?
My car is exempt, you don't like it, write to TfL.
I do drive whatever I like, whenever I like.
Who is stopping me?
Ax^
Silly Rabbit
pretty unpopular in HounslowGood. Leading the way for once.
It is clear that ULEZ is unpopular with certain outer-London types in places like Uxbridge, who mostly vote tory anyway. But I'd be surprised if a solid majority of Londoners don't support it.
very labour part of London
think it all the fucking planes going over ever 40 seconds
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
And if you're indifferent to Sadiq Khan but you hate the idea of kids growing up with breathable air because boohoo my car, you can probably fuck off as well. Oh I didn't know when I bought this shitty old diesel last year that I would be banned from driving it. Maybe not, but you knew it was a shitty old diesel and you still bought it so, when you get right down to it, fuck you anyway.
Chz
Stark Raving Sane
I used to think that myself, because I tend to do research before I buy something as expensive as a car. (I'm pretty much of the belief that there's no reason on Earth why someone who does under 30k miles a year should buy a diesel) But I've now run into enough people to know that just because you're spending £10k+ on something, it doesn't mean that some people will do a shred of investigation into it. A lot of people bought them partly out of sheer ignorance, and partly because the government themselves used to promote them as "greener". And I had a real, manifest hatred for them when they were doing that, because I knew it was swapping one type of pollution that might kill you 30 years down the road for one that will kill you right now. Fuckers trying to meet their CO2 commitments by strangling all the kids that dare to live near a busy road instead of doing something to promote less fucking driving.
sleaterkinney
Well-Known Member
No, it depends on the type of vehicle you have and if it doesn’t meet the requirements that’s the cost of bringing it in, so it is like with like.
Which vehicles can drive in Paris and the Greater Paris metropolis?
What vehicles can they drive in Paris and the Greater Paris metropolis?
www.service-public.fr
No, it depends on the type of vehicle you have and if it doesn’t meet the requirements that’s the cost of bringing it in, so it is like with like.
Which vehicles can drive in Paris and the Greater Paris metropolis?
What vehicles can they drive in Paris and the Greater Paris metropolis?
They are banned and 180 is a fine, the ulez bans nothing but if you are out of spec it costs 12.50.
It’s not really comparable
sleaterkinney
Well-Known Member
It’s the cost of bringing your non-compliant vehicle in.
Hollis
bloody furious
I'm all in favour of pay per mile road charging.. would seem to be the longer term solution to excessive road use and congestion.
I would imagine eventually it could be made quite sophisticted so the charge depends on the type of vehicle your driving, the road your driving on and how far your drivivng. Would reduce taffic on main roads and so on minor as well...
I would imagine eventually it could be made quite sophisticted so the charge depends on the type of vehicle your driving, the road your driving on and how far your drivivng. Would reduce taffic on main roads and so on minor as well...
sim667
All aboard the 303 bus.
I’m not adverse to ULEZ, and do appreciate that cleaner air is better, but being priced out of going into London by both public transport and now vehicle is very annoying.
luckily my work is 100m short of the zone, otherwise I’d have had to change base. My partners dad is however in the zone, so I won’t be driving to see him any longer.
luckily my work is 100m short of the zone, otherwise I’d have had to change base. My partners dad is however in the zone, so I won’t be driving to see him any longer.
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
No, it depends on the type of vehicle you have and if it doesn’t meet the requirements that’s the cost of bringing it in, so it is like with like.
Which vehicles can drive in Paris and the Greater Paris metropolis?
What vehicles can they drive in Paris and the Greater Paris metropolis?
Don't be silly.
