UK photographers: the law and your rights: discussion
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cybertect
It's grim up north (London)
I took the liberty of posting Boo38's tale on talkphotography.co.uk
Interesting result
http://www.talkphotography.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=372093
Interesting result
http://www.talkphotography.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=372093
AndWhyNot said:
Boo38
New Member
Well I did try to inform them, even gave them two chances to confirm what law they were going to be searching me under....I know the anti terror law is only an act so isn't law at all.
But I agree, the document they issued me with a breakdown of the search codes would have only led to confirming to the officers that they had in fact acted lawfully, another stella point to raise with the chef inspector, cheers cybertect!
But I agree, the document they issued me with a breakdown of the search codes would have only led to confirming to the officers that they had in fact acted lawfully, another stella point to raise with the chef inspector, cheers cybertect!
Jeremy Johnson
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I'm aware that it is full of embassy's but for some reason 'Kensington Palace Gardens' Road has signs up and down it stating 'no photography'.
I took a photo of one of the signs and then from an intercom of one of the houses the security told me to delete it! Anyone else had experience of this road! ?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kensington_Palace_Gardens
I took a photo of one of the signs and then from an intercom of one of the houses the security told me to delete it! Anyone else had experience of this road! ?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kensington_Palace_Gardens
FridgeMagnet
Administrator
It doesn't seem to be a private street, in which case they have no right to prohibit photography.
Might go down there tomorrow, it's just down the road and I have a camera to test.
Might go down there tomorrow, it's just down the road and I have a camera to test.
Mrs Magpie
On a bit of break...
It's full of Embassies as well as billionaires and armed police at either end though.
TruXta
tired
TERORST
FridgeMagnet
Administrator
Well, I'll try not to do any suicide bombings while I'm there. I bet they have nice houses.
Mrs Magpie
On a bit of break...
Just don't make sudden movements near the ones with guns.
FridgeMagnet
Administrator
I may be wearing a bulky overcoat
It's likely to be cold.IIRC it is a private street. Which is an attraction for the embassies.
Mrs Magpie
On a bit of break...
...and the billionaires.
ddraig
kicking against the pricks...
more fuckwittery from plod last week outside Lawrence trial at old bailey
on a public street. (thanks to tash tweet for this info)
http://photothisandthat.co.uk/2012/01/07/police-censorship/
on a public street. (thanks to tash tweet for this info)
http://photothisandthat.co.uk/2012/01/07/police-censorship/
editor
hiraethified
You should have invited the person out to discuss it, and then snapped them too for the extra LOLz.
Floppy Fairy
New Member
Actually, i do wonder what the laws on photography are, and if anybody has a decent knowledge of them i would really like some advise..
When i was twelve a photo was taken of me by a photographer named Iain Mckell, i had no idea who he was and he said that the photos were to be used in a private portifolio. Well three years later i find out that hes made a book named 'The new gypsies' with me in it, did a launch at the london school of fashion with my photo AND had allowed it to be printed in big issue magazine with a artical labelling me a a gypsy and saying that all gypsies shit in hedges! On top of that if you type 'gypsy' into google images my photo comes up!
I never gave him permission to use my photo and even if i had would he not have needed parental permission?
What would anyone suggest is a good course of action?
When i was twelve a photo was taken of me by a photographer named Iain Mckell, i had no idea who he was and he said that the photos were to be used in a private portifolio. Well three years later i find out that hes made a book named 'The new gypsies' with me in it, did a launch at the london school of fashion with my photo AND had allowed it to be printed in big issue magazine with a artical labelling me a a gypsy and saying that all gypsies shit in hedges! On top of that if you type 'gypsy' into google images my photo comes up!
I never gave him permission to use my photo and even if i had would he not have needed parental permission?
What would anyone suggest is a good course of action?
editor
hiraethified
Floppy: you've started another thread on this here, so it makes sense to discuss it there.
Marc Fairhurst
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I tend to have problems from security personnel, but not the police, in general. I got more grief taking this:
...than I did when taking things like this.
...than I did when taking things like this.
winjer
holocene death beat
Follow-up on that incident:
"An Italian student has won an out-of-court settlement with police after she was stopped under anti-terrorist legislation while filming buildings in London, and later arrested, held in a cell for five hours and then fined."
"Bonomo is particularly concerned about the handling of her complaint by the acting inspector David Pascoe, from the Met's department of professional standards. He decided Bonomo had no grounds for complaint without even interviewing any of the officers involved. The Met has now been asked to reinvestigate the complaint by the Independent Police Complaints Commission, which upheld an appeal from Bonomo. The IPCC said Bonomo had lodged a "serious complaint" that had become part of the "global discourse on policing" after the video "became viral and has attracted national and international criticism".
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/mar/19/police-payout-student-arrested-filming
Jeremy Johnson
New Member
Just thought I'd say that I got a response from The Crown estate RE: Taking photos in Kensington Park Gardens road!
http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/photography_in_kensington_palace
Its nice that they admit there is no legislation or law to make this enforceable!
http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/photography_in_kensington_palace
Its nice that they admit there is no legislation or law to make this enforceable!
winjer
holocene death beat
No specific legislation, but plenty of law.
"The authority for this rule is not derived from legislation but from the right of every landowner to impose conditions on access to its property." is correct, and enforceable.
RoyReed
Must fly!
mhendo
Aussie in San Francisco
That's not a permit. It's an authorization notice saying that holders of a UKPCA Press Card can shoot. Downloading the notice by itself is pointless if you don't have the card, and the notice says that you don't need to display the notice as long as you have the card.
But you're not forced to tell pseudoplod it isn't a permit
True, certainly true in theory. Reports on whether it works, in practice, without a press card would be interesting...
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
article and video in guardian about security not knowing arse from spanish archer
http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/video/2012/apr/16/02-olympic-venue-security-stop-photography-video
http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/video/2012/apr/16/02-olympic-venue-security-stop-photography-video
FridgeMagnet
Administrator
Text article here - http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2012/apr/16/02-olympic-venues-row-security-photography
The key point being at the end:
Which is the thing really - even if you know the law and you're entirely on the right side of it, after a while of getting hassle you're likely to consciously or subconsciously avoid places where you might get even more. The basic purpose is being achieved.
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