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Travelling from the UK to the USA with a criminal record

Just joined so a new member.

Firstly what a fantastic forum which I have been reading now for some time.

My question is this, in 2002 I travelled to the US without realising that the ESTA system had come into place and just filled in my form on the plane ticking no to every question and didn't think anymore of it and I got in ok.

I want to return with my girlfriend next year but obviously since 2002 things have moved on and got tighter.

I do plan to do the same as I did last time and keep my fingers crossed. I do have convictions but never done time.

I do understand that filling in the ESTA form on the plane just gives you pre-clearance and everything depends on what happens at Border control.

Can anybody confirm if checks are done in the US while the plane is in mid air. What I mean is with all the ESTA forms completed are they forwarded to the destination airport customs for them to check before the plane lands? It seems far fetched put 8.5 hours is ample time for that to be done?

I suppose they would then have to check databases and I have heard conflicting information on what the US have or share with the UK. Some say they share criminal information while others say they don't.

Finally my new passport obviously has a chip in it, does this chip carry any information of criminal records.

Many thanks in advance.


I heard of a lass getting taken off a plane for a minor caution when young. She applied properly and got in eventually. It's a ball ache though. Maybe you be luckier. Wanna take that risk? Go Guatemala instead or somewhere nice. Usa overrated and full of flag waving nuts
 
Hello again, many thanks for the very helpful replies and for making things much clearer for me.

Just one final question on this particular subject if I may? - The clear recommendation is to fill out an ESTA form online at the earliest opportunity which I understand, however if let's say I did this two months before I traveled, is that not enough time for personal backgrounds to be looked into before the person who has applied actually arrives in the US? In other words, let's just say my ESTA is approved in March 2018 and I travel in May 2018, isn't that giving sufficient time between the two for a more in depth check into my background to be carried out with any findings then being passed onto the US border control who could reverse the initial decision once I'm across the Atlantic?

Thanks again.


I don't think the times gonna make a difference. Im guessing it's not like they're gonna spending longer on you than anyone else (unless your a welsh Muslim?!) just cos you get the application in early.
 
I think he got no chance of going for around seven years. Unless it was a Muslim he beat up? Maybe then he'll get the red carpet.

But yeah really I hope he had a good reason to earn that charge otherwise def get a new boyfriend and go somewhere more interesting on holiday

Why 7 years? Thanks for your concern but I am definitely happy with my current boyfriend. The crime didn’t involve drugs/murder. Obviously gbh is a serious crime but surely they’re looking for ‘real criminals.’
 
This thread proves that a website offering a mix of free and premium information on travelling to the US with a criminal record would be a reasonable money spinner for anyone with a bit of time on their hands.
 
If he’s been convicted of gbh he is a real criminal!

Haha no I understand he is a real criminal, sorry should of worded that better! I mean aren’t they more interested in preventing people involved with drug crime/murderers into the country? Or maybe not judging by your reply...
 
Hi All

Read through the comments and I am feeling hopeful. In April I had a caution for malicious contact (stupid family feud) I have not been arrested so obviously ticked no to the ESTA question on criminal record, it said nothing about cautions ect only arrests. On the finger print details on the border that caution wont automatically show up will it? I've read the thread ect and everyone says it wont but its getting close now and I am getting worried lol views would be appreciated? Thanks
 
No it will not.
Thank you - I think I was just looking for some confirmation from a stranger, not friends family telling me it will be fine. Ive read so much other stuff on the net - 99.9% says it wont and then there 0.01% that says yes, then you start worrying. haha. Lost in the net then - thanks for replying so quick and the reassurance :)
 
Thank you - I think I was just looking for some confirmation from a stranger, not friends family telling me it will be fine. Ive read so much other stuff on the net - 99.9% says it wont and then there 0.01% that says yes, then you start worrying. haha. Lost in the net then - thanks for replying so quick and the reassurance :)
Cos strangers on the inter web are always the best people to rely on for 100% sound advice!
 
well 99% of post advise the same thing...there is no check on cautions ect only major crime and non flyers so I am thinking it will be fine.
 
Hey..
I Said I'd come back and let you all know how i got on....
I applied for a visa application and PAID the fee. I Cancelled my application and applied for esta instead because I didn't think the visa would have been accepted.
Everyone on here has said about lying on esta but no one has came back and said about applying for both.

I got in without a blink of an eye. Easy peasy. They asked where I was going, how long I was staying for and how much money I had. That was it!

Just go and take the risk, chances are they don't have a clue. The officer I had barley even looked at his computer. So NO THEY WON'T FIND OUT!! :)
 
well 99% of post advise the same thing...there is no check on cautions ect only major crime and non flyers so I am thinking it will be fine.
The point i was trying to make was that friends and family have said it will be fine, but you chose not to trust them and seek advice of strangers! Im sure you'll be fine too!
 
I see your point - I think I am just working myself up over nothing but I never been in trouble and I was mortified over the caution - I have read thread over thread and they all say the same thing, they do not have access, so I know I am being daft lol. Its made me so anxious recently and I am not an anxious person. I will let you guys know when I am back. Thank you all for your comments I really appreciate it. I think I should stop researching now haha
 
I am getting close now and still a little worried haha. I cant wait to come back and hopefully provide good news. I feel I have answered correctly anyway as the ESTA only asks - Have you been arrested or convicted of a crime, which I have not, so I feel I can honestly say if they ask, that I haven't. I wish I was not so worried about this. I have told myself not to research anymore, and I have lol. Still no change is research - they do not have access. I cannot wait to hopefully be in the hotel, have a good nights sleep and enjoy my holiday
 
of course you'll fly through. they treat new ESTAs different to people that have been in before. If you go to Miami you put details into a machine that spits out a receipt saying "computer says no". Don't be alarmed.
 
I went to Miami and Orlando last year, no issues - no caution then - this year is a different state. I technically haven't lied, I have not been arrested, just cautioned - the ESTA only specifically asked about arrests. Anyone I cant thank all you all enough for your responses. I will be a lot calmer going through after all these posts and threads - thank you all. x
 
I'd get the acro n see. Can't see it hurting...

"Arrest events that do not result in conviction will also appear. In other words, if you were arrested and the police took no further action (which may be shown as NFA on the disclosure document), or you were found not guilty at court the details surrounding this may appear on your disclosure." From acro website.

You will prob get a visitor visa but it's slow. I think the acro gotta be within the last 6 months.

Other people seem to have got in by bullshitting esta. Breaking law like that n getting caught will get u banned more seriously so depends how imp the trip is. I know a guy who knows a girl who got taken off a plane for a caution for herb smoking from when she was 17!


I got it and it came up no live trace. When I rang up only the final thing was on record, which is not a crime of moral turpitude.

Also I rang the unlock group who were able to give advice on travelling abroad with criminal backgrounds and what route to go through. Found them really helpful. I would recommend anyone on this thread who is still unsure to give them a call.
 
I am confused on what to do. I mean if they do not have access how can it show? Plus there was no arrest, I have never been arrested so I have not lied on the ESTA?
 
with the ACRO trace mentioned above ect. I have researched this morning, do they have ACRO routine access? The result shows as no, they can request it but it is very rare they do this. I do feel confident as I was never arrested ect ect. I am just gonna go with as I am now. I have never outstayed my visa ect and been a good girl on previous visits. I see the biometrics are taken just to ensure you go when you say you will and you do not commit a crime while there. I see Interpol only shows a red flag when you are wanted or a murder, pedophile or major drug baron ect. So again I am 100% safe on that area. I know its a roll of the dice so I am going to roll it and hope I am not that one percent who is unlucky. I will be travelling alone, so I am a bit nervous that that makes me look a bit more suspicious but I will not be travelling back on my own so hopefully that will rectify this.

The ACRO info I seen where is advises they do not have routine access was last reviewed and updated August 2017 so I am confident that is correct. Again with all the people on here who have been through I am confident that I will be fine...its just that little niggle there isn't it lol without sounding racist, I am white and a British Citizen, it seems the only issues they seem to have it with people from certain countries at present.
 
Hello, I have browsed through the forum and have picked up on a lot of useful information, however I feel as if it does not apply to me as much, as my case is very specific and complex to be compared to others. I apologise in advance if I have missed some information in the forum that does in fact apply to my situation. My situation is that I received a caution for possession of substance b (marijuana) 3 years ago in the United Kingdom while I was a student at a university there. I had a visa to study in the United Kingdom, so I myself am not from the UK. I am now in the process of receiving a job in the USA, thus I require a US working visa. I feel as if that in my case, there are many variables that cannot be compared to, so I feel quite vulnerable on applying for the work visa, vulnerability such as, would the UK embassy share information to the US embassy in regards to myself, or perhaps the fact that I am originally from saudi arabia, they might be more fixated on me due to all of the horrific tragedies terrorists have inflicted onto others internationally. I myself have never lived in a middle eastern country but in europe instead, i am quite western, however I feel that these variables wouldnt matter to them but instead that I, a saudi, may be stereotyped compared to others, thus alarming them which may lead for them to make a further background criminal check, including the UK. My question is therefore, do I have the same odds as everyone else, or are mine much much slimmer. I really do appreciate the time for anyone to answer. Thank you.
 
Hi All

Another newbie that is slightly confused having read too much!

Criminal record from 24 years ago (nothing since as I grew up) and falls under moral turpitude I believe. My daughter has always wanted to go to New York and I thought I would take her for her 21st next April.... then I started researching :-(

Which way should I do this or should I look elsewhere for a memorable trip for her?

Thank you in advance for any advice you can give.
 
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