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The Chicago Stairs; were these the ones that were behind the stone arches in Buckingham Palace Gardens just next to the entrances by platform 17?
In which case, they were in an entirely seperate building which led up to Salomons or are they referring to somewhere else I wonder.
 
I know I've moaned about this before, but it does really piss me off that a rare opportunity to make the area surrounding Victoria Station more open and pleasant to both alighting passengers and local passers-by has of course been missed, and all the buildings demolished are simply being replaced with more hi-rise buildings.

Compare the the sights, abundant light and space that greets train passengers arriving at the major Paris terminals, Amsterdam, Atocha and countless others across Europe with the claustrophobic, chaotic, ugly chaos anyone coming out of Victoria faces. You risk a neck injury if you want to spot the sky, and the walk to any landmarks such as Buckingham Palace is positively unpleasant as well as complicated.

I know land in central London is worth a lot, but still...
 
There will be no more views in London! Charlie put up a lot of opposition to the buildings around St Pauls I seem to remember, which made a little difference.
The one that got to me recently is how Battersea Power Station is being swamped from the sides by towering blocks of flats. Sadly, it's what happens, innit.
 
The views of St Paul's are vigorously protected, which I is why the "cheesegrater" tower leans back like it does, in order to get out of the way of the done when you look at it from Fleet St
 
two pre WW1 pictures of buses outside Victoria Station

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from here
 
They could run them even tighter; the trains are capable. But they already accelerate and brake as strongly as is still safe for the passengers. The Moscow trains must be a wild ride.
 
The Moscow trains must be a wild ride.
Not that noticeable when you are busy body barging/jostling the other passengers, as seems to be the accepted tradition. Love the oversized countdown style crazy clocks marking off the (very few) seconds to the next train.
 
I guess headway times also come down to distance between stops so maybe their acceleration is not necessarily greater.
 
Physics question:
If the acceleration and deceleration were achieved entirely by very steep gradients each side of stations would people then not fall over :hmm:
 
Physics question:
If the acceleration and deceleration were achieved entirely by very steep gradients each side of stations would people then not fall over :hmm:
Any change in velocity is equivalent irrespective of how it is achieved.

Are you are suggesting to angle them dynamically to offset the tendency to topple? Why not just mandate that everyone sits down? Or redesign the carriages so everyone can stand (or rather squeeze) in(to) individual tightly padded compartments? Or live life at a slower pace.
 
Any change in velocity is equivalent irrespective of how it is achieved.

Normally, the train would accelerate, and the standing passenger accelerates too but only because the train is acting on the passenger. If the train is only accelerating the passenger at one point of contact, ie the soles of their feet, then they are obviously liable to topple over.

My thinking was that if both train and passenger are being accelerated only by gravity, this issue might not exist, as the passenger would effectively be being "pushed" at their centre of gravity, not at their feet.

I'm not sure though.
 
Carnage
Travel chaos at UK's second busiest station
Commuters have been advised to avoid London Victoria railway station after a signal failure caused major disruption across south London.

Gatwick Express services are suspended while Southern and Thameslink trains are badly affected, National Rail said.

There has been a total loss of signalling power on three separate supplies in the Streatham Common area, Govia Thameslink Railway (GTR) said.

Disruption is expected until the end of the day, National Rail added.
 
I had loads of fun last night when someone jumped on the Thameslink line, diverted to Victoria where someone else jumped in front of a train also.
 
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