belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
Are you thick or dishonest?Really? How extraordinary that you know so much more about me than I do myself.
You have regularly mentioned being a tory voter, and you read the 'not one person' part, didn't you?
Are you thick or dishonest?Really? How extraordinary that you know so much more about me than I do myself.
Oh, yes, I did get where I am by my own efforts.
You like this nasty neo-liberal drivel stupid cunt?
To be perfectly honest, if you offered me the chance to be 21again, I wouldn't accept. The world is turning into something I really don't like the look of. Things are changing rapidly, and not for the better.
Are you thick or dishonest?
You have regularly mentioned being a tory voter, and you read the 'not one person' part, didn't you?
The shit, with regard to many pieces of shit started with your Labour chums, tuition fees, public sector pay freeze etc. So get off your fucking high horse.Note the use of the passive voice here. The world is going to shit, not the world is being turned to shit. And definitely not, the world is being turned to shit by my tory chums.
Yes, of course. You fuck up, that is your responsibility to sort out, not anyone else's.Just you, by yourself. No wider social or economic context had any kind of effect at all.
Presumably you are happy to take that same 100% share of the credit when stuff goes badly?
Yes, of course. You fuck up, that is your responsibility to sort out, not anyone else's.
A straightforward fib, I'd have thoughtWhat I said was that I have never cast my vote for a candidate that was elected. Fairly straightforward I would have thought.
Well, as a lifelong Conservative supporter and voter...
What a strange question. It was interesting, and also helpful to your fellow man. People don't choose to be ill, but when ill they need help to recover. I'm a compassionate person, I will always help where I can. I no doubt come across as acerbic, but if you were in the shit, I would offer to help.So why the career in medicine? Why not just let people take responsibility for their own failure to keep their blood on the inside?
I HAVE NEVER VOTED FOR A CONSERVATIVE CANDIDATE THAT WAS ELECTED. I LIVE IN IN WEST LOTHIAN, WHICH WAS LABOUR FOR DECADES, AND IS CURRENTLY SNP. IS THAT CLEAR?A straightforward fib, I'd have thought
still a bloody tory voter tho. hence, still part of the problem.I HAVE NEVER VOTED FOR A CONSERVATIVE CANDIDATE THAT WAS ELECTED. I LIVE IN IN WEST LOTHIAN, WHICH WAS LABOUR FOR DECADES, AND IS CURRENTLY SNP. IS THAT CLEAR?
still a bloody tory voter tho. hence, still part of the problem.
but since this is the only thing you are arguing about, I assume you have given up on the claim that you got where you are solely through your own efforts.
People don't choose to be ill, but when ill they need help to recover.
well, that's one then. I am fairly sure you made some use of training services, such as education, that you have relied upon the skills of other people to do your job (and to do it effectively), that you have sometimes relied upon other people to correct errors you made but didn't notice, that you drove along roads other people built, etc etc. No ones life and fortune, good or otherwise, is solely down to them.If can show me who else put me in any job, I will thank them. You won't find them though. I left home at eighteen, and have been looking after myself ever since. Through the good times, and the not so good times. The person that I do have to thank is Mrs Sas, because without her help and support over the last forty odd years, life would have been much much less pleasant. Even the bad times are better when there is someone by your side. She is the kindest person I have ever met, that said, she does have her moments. I am in no doubt regarding my shortcomings.
If can show me who else put me in any job, I will thank them. You won't find them though. I left home at eighteen, and have been looking after myself ever since. Through the good times, and the not so good times. The person that I do have to thank is Mrs Sas, because without her help and support over the last forty odd years, life would have been much much less pleasant. Even the bad times are better when there is someone by your side. She is the kindest person I have ever met, that said, she does have her moments. I am in no doubt regarding my shortcomings.
But they do choose to be unemployed, or stuck in a low-paying job?
This idea of people looking after themselves and succeeding or failing on ther own merits regardless of social context doesn't hold any water and it never has. The zealots who defend this notion are only too happy to fall back on a social safety net when one of their mighty free enterprises goes belly up, and yet they tell us it's ideologically wrong to allow a mere individual to do the same.
The safety net is there for all.
The safety net is there for all. It is something that, although I only used for a couple of weeks, I'm more than happy to contribute to for the benefit of all. I've paid tax and NI for one month short of 47 years. I've done my bit I think.
No it's really not. Go and look at one the many, many heartbreaking threads on benefit sanctions, mistreatment of sick and disabled people, unpaid labour, a crumbling for-profit social care model, cuts to mental health services and the systematic and deliberate denial of a social safety net to those most in need of it.
There's really no excuse for being so ignorant, or so fucking callous as to be in possession of the facts and still state that there's a safety net for all. Even the UN has openly stated that the disabled are systematically mistreated and abandoned by the British state.
It was a safety net stretched only a few centimetres above the hard floor when my mother was a single parent in the 1990s. She 'did her bit' as well. Things are even worse now.
I've had enough of your peevishness. You have not made your point.
I am neither ignorant nor callous. You however, are hell bent on trying to make a vacuous point, which is that the social security system doesn't work. That is palpably untrue. The picture you paint is grossly exaggerated, to meet your somewhat warped political view. End of conversation as far as I'm concerned, go and 'rabble rouse' elsewhere, if you can find an audience.
The level of ignorance is astonishing...and you have the gall to claim 'peevishness'. You have no idea and yet feel entirely qualified to spout conservative drivel. I see no reason whatsoever why you feel you need to name single parents as somehow having special support...when this is patently untrue. Once a Tory, eh...Yep, it was non existent, bar 90p a week in child allowance when we were starting out in the mid 70s. People with children, especially single parents get much more support now.
victory in seattle.and even there it's a campaign hope rather than the current reality).
victory in seattle.
I have to admit I thought this particular rebellion had just faded away, glad to be proved wrong.