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The Wire comes to BBC2 (Spoiler free, please)

See how Avon was almost accepting of his fate? His betrayal of Stringer hurt him.

Loved the Kima response to the question of how McNulty took Stringers death

'Like he was kin'
 
Yep, a proper stand out speech by Slim - and the first undisguised reference to Iraq:

“Don’t matter who did what to who at this point. Fact is, we went to war and now there ain't no going back. I mean, shit, that's what war is, you know; once you in it you in it. If it's a lie, then we fight on that lie. But we gotta fight,”
 
Yep, a proper stand out speech by Slim - and the first undisguised reference to Iraq:

“Don’t matter who did what to who at this point. Fact is, we went to war and now there ain't no going back. I mean, shit, that's what war is, you know; once you in it you in it. If it's a lie, then we fight on that lie. But we gotta fight,”

Nothing compared to the fall of the towers at the start of the season.
 
How far are the BBC2 showings in now (3 series?) then?

I loved this series (who does not?) and was one that I really did not want to finish. Not started Generation Kill yet and have re watched the last episode but am looking forward to watching Wire back through from the start.
 
Actually, having re-watched it last night, Avons passivity strikes me a lot. It is as if he betrayed Stringer and that took the heart out of him. It took him out of the Game mindset and put him in a place equivalent to that of Old School (the fella who runs the boxing gym for yoots)


I'm reminded of Slims exchange with Avon after Boxer had given up the Game. 'he still a man'.

Even then it seemed like the Game was becoming a jaded cliche for Avon.


And yet he gives a nod to Marlow (in the gallery), as he is getting sent down on parole violations.

Tis complex stuff

he also gives Marlow respect later when he hooks him up with the Greek. It's like he lost his heart, but still respected the Game and those involved in it
 
I love the musical montages they do at the end of series 2 and series 3, the song at the end of series 3 is particularly fitting, its 'Fast Train' by Solomon Burke. So many other shows have copied this style, I wonder if the Wire were the first to do it?
 
I love the musical montages they do at the end of series 2 and series 3, the song at the end of series 3 is particularly fitting, its 'Fast Train' by Solomon Burke. So many other shows have copied this style, I wonder if the Wire were the first to do it?

They weren't.
 
Actually, having re-watched it last night, Avons passivity strikes me a lot. It is as if he betrayed Stringer and that took the heart out of him. It took him out of the Game mindset and put him in a place equivalent to that of Old School (the fella who runs the boxing gym for yoots)
Was he any more passive than when the Detail came to arrest him in the office above Orlando's in S1?

On a real world timeline, I'd be interested to know when the phrase 'hitting the mattresses' first occured in The Wire vs. The Sopranos, and whether it's been used in other drama.

Even if this isn't one, there are cross-over references but I saw The Sopranos as I did The Wire so much probably passed me by.
 
Out of interest, which drama series did start the trend for end of series montages? There were some good ones in the OC e.g when they used Hallelujah.
 
Was he any more passive than when the Detail came to arrest him in the office above Orlando' in S1?

On a real world timeline, I'd be interested to know when the phrase 'hitting the mattresses' first occured in The Wire vs. The Sopranos, and whether it's been used in other drama.

Even if this isn't one, there are cross-over references but I saw The Sopranos as I did The Wire so much probably passed me by.

It's an old school term, Puzo (of Godfather fame) brought it to my attention years before The Wire.

It refers to hiring fleapit rooms with a few amenities. Soley to be used by hitters dossing it and waiting for a hit opportunity
 
On a real world timeline, I'd be interested to know when the phrase 'hitting the mattresses' first occured in The Wire vs. The Sopranos, and whether it's been used in other drama.

Its a phrase that goes back to the 1930's - iirc Puzo explains its meaning in the Godfather.
 
well, it's fucking true you do.

I don't know about that, but when people make that trish joke, there is an element of taking the piss out of cheesypoof for saying it, seriously, in the first place.

I don't think you look like Trisha, not even slightly. It was just funny that somebody would think that you do! The funniness is in the absurdity of it. It is nothing offensive.

:)
 
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