memory of a zx spectrum
nino --- "and????" and "lizards"
dashing blade "gm maize" answer "gm maize reply"
nino --- "and????" and "lizards"
dashing blade "gm maize" answer "gm maize reply"
zArk said:dashing blade "gm maize" answer "gm maize reply"
revol68 said:a cashless society will still require production you cretinous tedious lil nonce.
Azrael23 said:Which proves what? Do you realise how much of society is cashless already? What % of global welath actually exists in terms of money and precious metal? 15%? 20%?
The banks lend you credit. The credit comes from nowhere. If that isn`t the most dangerous monopoly on the planet god knows what is.
Hey man, I've just had a thought. If your money aint real, why not just hand it over to me? I'll test it to see if it 'works'.Azrael23 said:Which proves what? Do you realise how much of society is cashless already? What % of global welath actually exists in terms of money and precious metal? 15%? 20%?
The banks lend you credit. The credit comes from nowhere. If that isn`t the most dangerous monopoly on the planet god knows what is.
Yep.revol68 said:<snip> The essential point is that M-M-M is a parasite on M-C-M as one can stand on it's own whilst the other can't.<snip>
fractionMan said:Hey man, I've just had a thought. If your money aint real, why not just hand it over to me? I'll test it to see if it 'works'.
But that's exactly the point. As Thomas Edison said,fractionMan said:Hey man, I've just had a thought. If your money aint real, why not just hand it over to me? I'll test it to see if it 'works'.
Jazzz said:But that's exactly the point. As Thomas Edison said,
"If our nation can issue a dollar bond, it can issue a dollar bill. The element that makes the bond good makes the bill good."
The difference between the two is that bankers earn a fortune on the first for doing nothing but sitting on their arses, and nothing on the second - the wealth stays with the people.
Bernie Gunther said:Here's an idea. Short circuit the bastards. Form a credit union, get local savings invested in local projects of real value. Renewable energy, insulation, water recycling, urban food co-ops, light industry fulfilling essential needs. Create jobs locally, keep the value generated circulating locally instead of letting it get sucked out of your local economy to make parasites rich.
A Dashing Blade said:When you've dug a hole, stop digging zArk.
When your mother told you that you were special, she did not mean gifted.
Third time zArk, what part of my reply was wrong?
Put up or shut up.
"DASHING BLADE, denys information if DB hasnt heard about it "
I note you didn't quote my answer to that post
Seriously, though - How can that possibly work if the systemic problems remain unaddressed?Bernie Gunther said:Here's an idea. Short circuit the bastards. Form a credit union, get local savings invested in local projects of real value. Renewable energy, insulation, water recycling, urban food co-ops, light industry fulfilling essential needs. Create jobs locally, keep the value generated circulating locally instead of letting it get sucked out of your local economy to make parasites rich.
zArk said:. . .
Then Dashing Blade started saying that the Bourse doesnt exist and is bollocks --- so i provided (and others provided) multiple sources about the Bourse-- . . .
A Dashing Blade said:Will you please stop talking bollocks about this issue.
Pragmatic approach. Fix whatever bit of the problem you can see how to fix, and hope that gives you some tools with which to tackle the bigger problem. I've absolutely no idea how to change the global financial architecture, but I can see some things that look like they should do more good than harm if they were implemented at a local level.Backatcha Bandit said:Seriously, though - How can that possibly work if the systemic problems remain unaddressed?
How can the systemic failings in the nature of money ever be rectified if they remain unrecognised?
zArk said:interview by John Pilger "The New Rulers of the World", 2003, p.44
revol68 in response to zArk said:are you fucking dim?
the monarchy does not own the fucking own all the land and more importantly it doesn't own the factories, ships, ports, trains and land required for the feeding of the worlds population.
Hence communism, that is the suppression of capital vis a vis the seizure of the means of production by the working class and the communisation of production and distribution vis a vis directly democratic communities is still a vital critique of capitalism.
Whilst your silly lil crackpot plan is as much use as Sun block in the arctic.
nino_savatte said:You'll be lucky. I reckon zArk swallowed Baudrillard's Simualtion and Simulacra whole and is just belching out as much of it as he can.
KeyboardJockey said:Washed down with a vintage copy of The Protocols of The Elders Of Zion no doubt.
Blagsta said:I don't think azrael23 actually knows what communism means.
the royal "we" -- love that phrase, my nan always used it for shits and giggles
we reproduce --- this is where i include Foucault and internalisation.
yeah, we reproduce the real but who is this 'we'? or "I"?
It is the simulacra acting through us. In some people the simulacra totally dominates agency and freewill, in others it is a sliding scale.