The Tuts make dubious allegations after Brixton Windmill gig

[ethel]

A guy I know put on a gig at the windmill last night. It ended with an allegation of assault and racial abuse of one of the band members from one of the people related to the venue.

of course this is all over twitter and people are calling for a boycott (allegedly, similar incidents have happened before).

it's all a bit scary and sad.

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

Don't the tweets say what went on?

 

[Badgers]

Tweets saying landlord assaulted two women and was racist. They are only tweets (so don't take it as fact) but sounds like some unpleasantness and the police were called. Most of the stuff on twitter is people telling others to boycott it.

 

[ethel]

Minnie I wasn't sure what I could say legally but badgers has done it for me

I always felt that the windmill was an inclusive, open venue. Apparently not

 

[snowy_again]

Only if you rely on what people say on twitter... it's hardly a reliable news source is it?

 

[editor]

It sure doesn't sound too good.

You can get some of the background here:
https://twitter.com/#!/simonairish
https://twitter.com/#!/emma_doubleyou
https://twitter.com/#!/TheyAllLaughed

 

[Badgers]

I don't think there is a legal thing there. I am saying what the tweets say, not a statement of fact. Either way it is sad

 

[Badgers]

Only if you rely on what people say on twitter... it's hardly a reliable news source is it?

No. But it is usually a good indication. It annoys me when people just re tweet or spin rumour so sorry if my post above upsets. Does not read like hysteria or malice to me. Then again I was not there.

 

[Dan U]

used the P word whilst dragging a woman by her hair allegedly, nice.

i think 'all over twitter' is pushing it a bit though. its a very small group of indie people going on about it.

bit fatal to the venue though, regardless of what happened

 

[5t3IIa]

Is the 'p word' = Paki?

 

[Dan U]

Is the 'p word' = Paki?

that or 'paddy' but one would assume the former.

 

[editor]

Only if you rely on what people say on twitter... it's hardly a reliable news source is it?

Generally no, but when several people are corroborating the same story then it suggests there might be something in it.

Either way, the Windmill has got a bit of a PR disaster on their hands. Let's hope they can resolve it because it's a good venue.

 

[RaverDrew]

Blimey, I was supposed to meet someone for a drink there last night but never made it, I'll ask my friend if she witnessed anything.

 

[ethel]

Only if you rely on what people say on twitter... it's hardly a reliable news source is it?

I know some of the people involved though. They aren't the type to just invent stuff.

 

[editor]

Before anyone starts pointing the finger at TwistedAM, I should point out that had nothing to do with any of this!

 

[Dan U]

Before anyone starts pointing the finger at TwistedAM, I should point out that had nothing to do with any of this!

if he is the booker referred to, he is clearly absolved of blame on the tweets

 

[Brixton Hatter]

Interesting that the police were called, but, despite lots of witnesses, no arrests were made. Which possibly indicates it was a small argument that got stupidly out of hand (easy when you've been drinking all night) or no one was willing to make a complaint to the police. Some people say they've been "assaulted" when they've had a little push in the chest...hard to speculate without hearing both side of the story.

Is the 'p word' = Paki?

that or 'paddy' but one would assume the former.

A few of the people on twitter appear to be Irish so it could be the latter.

In years of going to the Windmill, I've never seen/experienced anything like that.

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

Interesting that the police were called, but, despite lots of witnesses, no arrests were made. Which possibly indicates it was a small argument that got stupidly out of hand (easy when you've been drinking all night) or no one was willing to make a complaint to the police.




A few of the people on twitter appear to be Irish so it could be the latter

Referring to an Asian looking girl as a paddy?

 

[RaverDrew]

Interesting that the police were called, but, despite lots of witnesses, no arrests were made. Which possibly indicates it was a small argument that got stupidly out of hand (easy when you've been drinking all night) or no one was willing to make a complaint to the police.

Exactly, it all sounds a bit iffy to me tbh

A few of the people on twitter appear to be Irish so it could be the latter

I seriously doubt that

 

[Badgers]

Interesting that the police were called, but, despite lots of witnesses, no arrests were made. Which possibly indicates it was a small argument that got stupidly out of hand (easy when you've been drinking all night) or no one was willing to make a complaint to the police.

I read that too. Should never speculate on these matters. The police reputation with racism has been tarnished for sure. However I was in another Brixton pub last week when they took a racist incident very seriously.

 

[snowy_again]

It's taken me a while to realise who TwistedAM is in real life, which is a bit of a face palm on my part.

Shame to hear about those accusations though.

 

[Brixton Hatter]

Referring to an Asian looking girl as a paddy?

Oh, didnt realise the singer was Asian. Ignore me!

 

[RaverDrew]

I read that too. Should never speculate on these matters. The police reputation with racism has been tarnished for sure. However I was in another Brixton pub last week when they took a racist incident very seriously.

Was less than impressed with the Beehive's attitude to a particularly nasty racist incident last week, although it did get dealt with eventually. It was enough to put me off going back there again.

 

[DJWrongspeed]

Doesn't sound good but until someone who was actually there tell us what happened it's hard to know really. All a bit fragmentary on twitter which is why i don't like twitter.

well to be fair Nadia from The Tuts was very much out of it but they stretched "reasonable force" to the limits.

 

[Dan U]

just googled the band, v unlikely it was 'paddy' that was allegedly used

 

[Brixton Hatter]

Does anyone know the landlord of the Windmill? They might want to point out to him the various tweets that have been going round - because it's either a PR disaster/crime or a load of potentially libellous stuff...

Brixton Blog have been sniffing round the story, asking people to get in touch if they know anything

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

Oh, didnt realise the singer was Asian. Ignore me!

I only discovered that after googling

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

Oh, didnt realise the singer was Asian. Ignore me!

Of course, they could be Asian looking paddies

 

[ethel]

On twitter it was reported that police said "they either arrest him AND everyone who witnessed it because they 'can't take sides' or no one."

And
"Never seen anything like it anywhere before, he pulled her hair &; chased her round room. 4/5men trying to get him off her."

 

[editor]

Does anyone know the landlord of the Windmill?

Pretty sure he would have been made aware of it by now.