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The one-week iQueue. The saddest fanboys of the lot

persumably the one in the yellow is employed to sit there and the other one is there to take photos of him?.

As others have said, the whole thing stinks of a slightly deparate "viral marketing" push to hype it onto the front page of the newspapers.

Problem is:
I am quite keen to buy one, and am more than willing to wander up to a shop on day one to buy the thing. However, I don't want to own something for which people think I spent 3 days feverishly queuing, and if I have to jump through any hoops may well just get a palm or something else instead.:hmm:
 
I just got an email from T-mobile saying if I'd like to come down the store at midnight and queue I might get one of the 500 they're receiving.

Fuck. Off.
 
Structaural said:
init, and now we won't get Photoshop CS4 in 64-bit on the Mac because of it. Tossers the lot of 'em. Photoshop made Apple big and the mac made Photoshop big but if you want to run it with more than 3gb of ram you'd better buy a PC.
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When I started in my trade it was all Macs. I learnt Illustrator and Photoshop on Macs 15 years ago. But slowly and surely everyone was asked (i.e forced) to switch to p.c. , generally for reasons of cost, also because everyone has to be multiskilled, now, we are not just designing, we are number crunching - I have excel and illustrator on the go at the same time.
I don't think I'd switch back now, as a small businessperson I couldn't afford to. I had heard about these bugs in CS3 on macs, but I had no idea it was still ongoing. I do think it's outrageous though.

Nice phone but I'm Blackberry institutionalised, I'm onto my fourth handset (the last one slipped off a shelf into a glass of water last week). :oops:

I'll get the 3g one when I upgrade in January. I'd consider the iphone if it was better suited to business travel, it gives me the heebie jeebies to read about people going abroad and coming back with a 2 grand phonebill. I spend about £100 a month for a Blackberry and 2 3G+ datacards, I think an iphone would be a bit more than that.
 
pinkmonkey said:
I'll get the 3g one when I upgrade in January. I'd consider the iphone if it was better suited to business travel, it gives me the heebie jeebies to read about people going abroad and...
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Not much point upgrading... The Blackberry browser on the 3G version is the same one as on Edge and only marginally faster. Email is the same as its pushed based. There's only an advantage if have lots of attachments, or are on "pull" email.

pinkmonkey said:
coming back with a 2 grand phonebill. I spend about £100 a month for a Blackberry and 2 3G+ datacards, I think an iphone would be a bit more than that.
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Data roaming on the iPhone is off by default, and if you try and use the Internet (ie, via Edge) abroad it will ask you first.
 
nick said:
persumably the one in the yellow is employed to sit there and the other one is there to take photos of him?.

As others have said, the whole thing stinks of a slightly deparate "viral marketing" push to hype it onto the front page of the newspapers.
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Why, can't people get excited about anything anymore...? :confused: Personally I don't give to hoots if someone queues up for an iPhone. At least there doing something on their own initiative, and aren't going to be running around stabbing people. (As the Medja would have us believe)

nick said:
Problem is:
I am quite keen to buy one, and am more than willing to wander up to a shop on day one to buy the thing. However, I don't want to own something for which people think I spent 3 days feverishly queuing, and if I have to jump through any hoops may well just get a palm or something else instead.:hmm:
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What "hoops"...? Its sounds just the usual hassles of getting a phone. Sign contract, avoid being up-selled, etc Just wait a few weeks and there'll be no wait.
 
jæd said:
Why, can't people get excited about anything anymore...?
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Maybe it's the way that this PR-driven feast of consumerism for the well-heeled is being cynically and carefully stage-managed and manipulated into some kind of ludicrous "event" that is leaving some people a little less than overwhelmed?
 
Jaed
I agree that the hoops are probably non-existent.
My (no doubt clumsily put) point was that all of this (IMHO) false shortage etc hype may give people the impression that there are hoops to jump through.

Since this thing is supposedly about style as well as design/functionality: if people think that an iPhone owner is a fool for buying into the above, the style part of the equation is negated. This will alter the balance of desirability and may mean that I will take my several hundred pounds of T.C.O to another hardware / service provider.

I admit to being shallow enough to being excited about this thing - but my excitement is waning by the minute: no excitement, no sale - it is, after all, only a phone. :)
 
Has anyone mentioned that this could just be one huge publicity stunt from Apple? It would be easy to orchestrate a story like this IMO.

*Puts on tinfoil hat*
 
editor said:
Maybe it's the way that this PR-driven feast of consumerism for the well-heeled is being cynically and carefully stage-managed and manipulated into some kind of ludicrous "event" that is leaving some people a little less than overwhelmed?
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Well... Its really how you perceive it. To people close in (like perhaps you + me) its probably overwhelming, but to other people it will just be a news item on the BBC tomorrow.

Of course one can always be cynical about these things, but I feel it takes something out of life. Its not everyday (it may seem like it though) a company tries flog its newest, shiniest gadget so enjoy it for the slightly silly drama that it is... :D
 
nick said:
Jaed
I agree that the hoops are probably non-existent.
My (no doubt clumsily put) point was that all of this (IMHO) false shortage etc hype may give people the impression that there are hoops to jump through.
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Why would you want to put people off buying a phone that's already quite expensive...? :confused:

The Doctor said:
Has anyone mentioned that this could just be one huge publicity stunt from Apple? It would be easy to orchestrate a story like this IMO.

*Puts on tinfoil hat*
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iTinfoily-hats, to you... :D
 
ifixit have taken one apart:

Apparently, the battery is not soldered in the 3g iphone, so user-replacement is now slightly less monsterously convoluted.
Also, the glass and display are now seperate items, which should lower the cost/difficulty of replacing any cracked glass.
 
Why would you want to put people off buying a phone that's already quite expensive
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I guess (iGuess?) its the whole "free to those that can afford it, expensive to those that can't" type thing.

Presumaby they are trying to build / maintain a type of cachet on owning it. cf limited edition cars and the trouble that Burberry found themselves in when their brand started to be associated with "chavs".

Problem is, it is a difficult balancing act and, iFeel, they may be doing this one a bit too clumsily: Being associated with 2 lonely geeks in plastic raincoats sitting in Regent st probably isn't the ideal image they intended to project:D
 
dogmatique said:
Outside the Apple Store, Regent St, 10 minutes ago...

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This chap's selling his place in the massive queue on ebay...

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Knobber...
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That is pretty sad. I wonder if that will be all there is tomorrow morning?
 
jæd said:
Of course one can always be cynical about these things, but I feel it takes something out of life. Its not everyday (it may seem like it though) a company tries flog its newest, shiniest gadget so enjoy it for the slightly silly drama that it is... :D
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Seems a pretty sad life to me that needs to find thrills out of expensive consumer goods being shifted through a deeply manipulative and cynical PR campaign.

The more people that sneer at this kind of consumerist, product-shifting, desire-fuelling bullshit the better, IMO.

There's lots of things to find joy in, and a fucking iPhone launch ain't one of them.
 
jæd said:
Well... Its really how you perceive it. To people close in (like perhaps you + me) its probably overwhelming, but to other people it will just be a news item on the BBC tomorrow.

Of course one can always be cynical about these things, but I feel it takes something out of life. Its not everyday (it may seem like it though) a company tries flog its newest, shiniest gadget so enjoy it for the slightly silly drama that it is... :D
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what about the fact that the iPhone is an overpriced underspecced piece of shit and Apple fanboys are the biggest fuckwits going. Microsoft are cunts but atleast the users of their products (whether legit or of the high sea variety) don't imagine they are using zeitgiest moulding pieces of technological art that encapuslate the individuality and creativity of themselves. :rolleyes:
 
revol68 said:
what about the fact that the iPhone is an overpriced underspecced piece of shit and Apple fanboys are the biggest fuckwits going. Microsoft are cunts but atleast the users of their products (whether legit or of the high sea variety) don't imagine they are using zeitgiest moulding pieces of technological art that encapuslate the individuality and creativity of themselves. :rolleyes:
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did you just cut and paste that from the other thread where you said pretty much the same thing? :D
 
editor said:
Seems a pretty sad life to me that needs to find thrills out of expensive consumer goods being shifted through a deeply manipulative and cynical PR campaign.

The more people that sneer at this kind of consumerist, product-shifting, desire-fuelling bullshit the better, IMO.

There's lots of things to find joy in, and a fucking iPhone launch ain't one of them.
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You don't ever suffer from gadget lust then?
Or impatience at wanting something now rather than later?
 
Marius said:
You don't ever suffer from gadget lust then?
Or impatience at wanting something now rather than later?
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There's no gadget on earth that would make me queue up outside a shop for days on end, or waste my valuable time trying to get something a few hours earlier than everyone else, or want me to leave a shop triumphantly holding the gadget aloft and squeaking like a 6 year old, or want store staff driven into a hyperbolic frenzy to clap me, high five me, or cheer and whoop at my buying decision, or do any of that other weird bullshit.

It's positively unhealthy for adults to act in that manner over expensive consumer goods if you ask me.
 
I don't think the supply issue/web site failure is fake. Apple didn't manage the run-down of the 2G supply very well, O2's web site is generally utterly shite... it's all quite consistent.
 
yeah, this one is 3G, has GPS and is a bit cheaper (at the start, anyway. the contract options are a bit pricier)
 
Safari is quite a good browser and actually displays the pages well with that clever zooming panning thing, sans flash.
 
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