The Moon Landings - True / False
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Bob_the_lost
Elsewhere
Azrael23 said:Where did you hear that? Is that actually proveable?
HAS ANYONE SEEN SECRET SPACE?
No, otherwise it wouldn't be a bloody secret would it.
Eastender touched me in my private place, i didn't like it
jms said:
We, in Nederland, have known that for some time.
Stobart Stopper said:
Isn't it shit, when you've really been attentive to detail, packed the sheets, the wash-hand basin and the moon buggy, but nevertheless forgot to bring the camera.
Donna Ferentes
jubliado
Anybody fancy Buzz Aldrin v John Prescott?
Crispy
The following psytrance is baṉned: All
It does indeed make me really angry - We went to the moon, folks. It would be impossible to fake it.
Evidence number one. Thirteen Saturn V rockets were launched. Thousands of people sat on the grass by the Florida swamp and watched them go up. Hundreds of thousands more designed, built and flew the parts of that rocket. It was designed for one thing - land humans on the moon. All those engineers were clever boys and girls, so they really did design it so it could do what they said it could. Impossible to silence them all, so we can assume that the Saturn V really was a moon-capable rocket.
Evidence number two. If you watch any of the moonwalking or driving footage, pay close attention to the dust. It does not 'billow' like dust kicked up on earth does. On earth, most of the dust is moved around by the displaced air from the impact. On the moon, only the dust touched by your foot or the rover wheel is kicked up. Once aloft, each dust particle follows a perfect parabola, like a thrown ball. It looks quite different to earth dust and is impossible to fake without a vacuum chamber. The world's largest vacuum chamber is 30m wide. There is plenty of footage showing astronauts or rovers travelling much further than 30m.
Evidence number three. If you get a very accurate laser and a laser detector and shine it and a precise point on the moon's surface, you get a perfect relection. This is because the apollo astronauts left mirrors on the surface for just this purpose.
To refute a couple of the 'proofs' mentioned in the OP:
Van Allen belts are dangerous to humans, yes. However, they exist only in a ring around the magnetic axis of the earth. This axis is tilted from the orbital axis of the moon, so it is very possible to shoot your rocket over the top of them, just grazing them. This is what NASA did. Bear in mind the 3mm of aluminium quote upthread also.
The astronauts took loads of pictures. Most of them were crap, because there were no viewfinders. The photos you see are selcted from all the duds.
Space suits are all nice and flexible on earth. In a vacuum, the presuure inside makes them swell up like a ballon. Bend an uninflated ballon. Easy. Bend an inflated ballon. Not so easy. This makes it hard to jump 6 feet in the air btw.
We haven't been back in 36 years because a)The USSR died off. and b)NASA built the space shuttle next, but it can only go to LEO (llow earth orbit) because it was a hideous design compromise.
PS: The USSR tried like hell to get there too. Check out this mental rocket:
http://www.russianspaceweb.com/n1.html
You think they weren't watching the Apollo flights with all their tracking radar? You think they wouldn't have kicked up a fuss if the Americans really didn't do it?
Bullshit bullshit bullshit. These theories are the inventions of properly paranoid conspiraloons who beleive their governments are out to get them. It's pretty easy to fake a military attack in order to start a land war in Asia. It's pretty easy to provoke a coup in an unstable country. It's fucking impossible to fake going to the moon.
Evidence number one. Thirteen Saturn V rockets were launched. Thousands of people sat on the grass by the Florida swamp and watched them go up. Hundreds of thousands more designed, built and flew the parts of that rocket. It was designed for one thing - land humans on the moon. All those engineers were clever boys and girls, so they really did design it so it could do what they said it could. Impossible to silence them all, so we can assume that the Saturn V really was a moon-capable rocket.
Evidence number two. If you watch any of the moonwalking or driving footage, pay close attention to the dust. It does not 'billow' like dust kicked up on earth does. On earth, most of the dust is moved around by the displaced air from the impact. On the moon, only the dust touched by your foot or the rover wheel is kicked up. Once aloft, each dust particle follows a perfect parabola, like a thrown ball. It looks quite different to earth dust and is impossible to fake without a vacuum chamber. The world's largest vacuum chamber is 30m wide. There is plenty of footage showing astronauts or rovers travelling much further than 30m.
Evidence number three. If you get a very accurate laser and a laser detector and shine it and a precise point on the moon's surface, you get a perfect relection. This is because the apollo astronauts left mirrors on the surface for just this purpose.
To refute a couple of the 'proofs' mentioned in the OP:
Van Allen belts are dangerous to humans, yes. However, they exist only in a ring around the magnetic axis of the earth. This axis is tilted from the orbital axis of the moon, so it is very possible to shoot your rocket over the top of them, just grazing them. This is what NASA did. Bear in mind the 3mm of aluminium quote upthread also.
The astronauts took loads of pictures. Most of them were crap, because there were no viewfinders. The photos you see are selcted from all the duds.
Space suits are all nice and flexible on earth. In a vacuum, the presuure inside makes them swell up like a ballon. Bend an uninflated ballon. Easy. Bend an inflated ballon. Not so easy. This makes it hard to jump 6 feet in the air btw.
We haven't been back in 36 years because a)The USSR died off. and b)NASA built the space shuttle next, but it can only go to LEO (llow earth orbit) because it was a hideous design compromise.
PS: The USSR tried like hell to get there too. Check out this mental rocket:
http://www.russianspaceweb.com/n1.html
You think they weren't watching the Apollo flights with all their tracking radar? You think they wouldn't have kicked up a fuss if the Americans really didn't do it?
Bullshit bullshit bullshit. These theories are the inventions of properly paranoid conspiraloons who beleive their governments are out to get them. It's pretty easy to fake a military attack in order to start a land war in Asia. It's pretty easy to provoke a coup in an unstable country. It's fucking impossible to fake going to the moon.
treefrog
Saddle up
*bangs head against screen*
The flag was starched to look like it was fluttering, I thought this was common knowledge
There are no stars in some of the footage because, as a physicist friend of mine once said "you try filming the the buggers with cameras that basic"
What were those huge Saturn V rockets for then? oversized cake decorations? Are they supposed to have launched and then landed in Aruba or something?
Why would they have fake-launched Apollo 12, kept all those involved with that landing quiet, only to have no video footage? Al Bean said that he knackered the camera by pointing it at the sun very early on in the landing. If it was in a studio, why would that have happened? Don't tell me they spent millions on a hoax so subtle, they faked an entire landing that suffered from incompetence?
As for Buzz Aldrin, how would you feel if some twattock came up to you and told you that one of the most astonishing things that humans have ever done, that you were a part of, was bollocks? The reporter who got punched was trying to make some cable TV fluff about trying to annoy the astronauts in the vain hope they'd "come clean". Arsehole.
Next!
The flag was starched to look like it was fluttering, I thought this was common knowledge
There are no stars in some of the footage because, as a physicist friend of mine once said "you try filming the the buggers with cameras that basic"
What were those huge Saturn V rockets for then? oversized cake decorations? Are they supposed to have launched and then landed in Aruba or something?
Why would they have fake-launched Apollo 12, kept all those involved with that landing quiet, only to have no video footage? Al Bean said that he knackered the camera by pointing it at the sun very early on in the landing. If it was in a studio, why would that have happened? Don't tell me they spent millions on a hoax so subtle, they faked an entire landing that suffered from incompetence?
As for Buzz Aldrin, how would you feel if some twattock came up to you and told you that one of the most astonishing things that humans have ever done, that you were a part of, was bollocks? The reporter who got punched was trying to make some cable TV fluff about trying to annoy the astronauts in the vain hope they'd "come clean". Arsehole.
Next!
brixtonvilla
should be Oslovilla, really
There's the small matter of the moonrock & dust they brought back, which is (IIRC) unlike any rocks or soil on earth. Unless the geologists are in on it too...
Kameron
Kamoceratops
The idea that the US government is so well organised as to be able to pull off a stunt of that magnitude and not one of the thousands of people involved has ever coveted the massive fame that could be had for blowing it out the water is a ludicrous suggestion. It would mean crediting to government with power, foresight and perspicacity that we plainly know it doesn't have. In addition there would have been no greater prise in intelligence terms for the USSR than being able to prove that it was faked, it is plainly ridiculous.
dirtysanta
Original Casual
Crispy said:
Hey, you dont have to lose your temper.
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
what, eastender, you mean to say that they HAVEN'T!? 
i think there are quite a few conspiracy theories that have a lot of truth in them, however the vast majority are just bollocks.
this is one that falls into the "bollocks" category, for the reasons people have already said ... it's always good to be selective about things. if you go around believing everything people say on some nutty website then you'll end up reaching an early death because someone said that drinking rat poison was good for you and the government was trying to silence this knowledge. or something.
but i also don't think that one should write off things automatically because one of the people who agreed with it seems like a fruitloop. a stopped clock is still right twice a day.
i think there are quite a few conspiracy theories that have a lot of truth in them, however the vast majority are just bollocks.
this is one that falls into the "bollocks" category, for the reasons people have already said ... it's always good to be selective about things. if you go around believing everything people say on some nutty website then you'll end up reaching an early death because someone said that drinking rat poison was good for you and the government was trying to silence this knowledge. or something.
but i also don't think that one should write off things automatically because one of the people who agreed with it seems like a fruitloop. a stopped clock is still right twice a day.
likesfish
You can't park here sir
conspricy theorys tend to relie on the goverment and the military being this hugely sophisitcated and clever orgainisations
bless
that even more bonkers than the theorys
heard about the sas helicopters that can't fly at night or in bad weather thats whos ruling not the elite more the scum that floated to the top
bless
that even more bonkers than the theorys
heard about the sas helicopters that can't fly at night or in bad weather
thats whos ruling not the elite more the scum that floated to the top 
ATOMIC SUPLEX
Member Since: 1985 Post Count: 3
Don't be a dingus. Not when they are pummped up to the pressure of a football.WouldBe said:One piece doesn't mean inflexible. How would you be able to ride a motorbike in one-piece leathers if they were inflexible?
Or diving suits
Or cat suits.
ATOMIC SUPLEX
Member Since: 1985 Post Count: 3
Crispy said:
Yes this one nasa has never explained on their con debunking website. How were they bending their fingers around like they were wearing motorcycle gloves?
bluestreak
HomosexualityIsStalin’sAtomBombtoDestroyAmerica
well i think that the moon was just a way of distracting us from the second sun that they're hiding from us, and by concentrating on the moon landing you lot are all falling into their trap.
Badger Kitten
oof
This thread is a good way to get loons to reveal themselves 
I am very
with loons at the moment, ( goes and looks for a conspiracy-theorist-trashing thread to vent spleen in and feel better)
I am very
with loons at the moment, ( goes and looks for a conspiracy-theorist-trashing thread to vent spleen in and feel better)chico enrico
No hair shows you care.
I was going to vote 'false' then i realised my answer would probably be fed into the fibre-opric cables linked to the lizards that control the pentagon and the fact i was an 'moon landing unbeliever' would be added to the data in the computer chip that is implanted into my brain by their secret agents at the dentists.
...around the same time they tattooed 'CONSPIRACE THEORY BELIEVING FOOL' in invisible ink across my forehead
...around the same time they tattooed 'CONSPIRACE THEORY BELIEVING FOOL' in invisible ink across my forehead
