coley
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What's the piece of kit in the picture?
The Islamic state
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kebabking
Not a Girly Swot, but I like them....
its the 0.5 inch heavy machine gun - we sent the Pesh 40 of them and a training team a couple of months ago. the 'kit left over from Afghan' stuff was in relation to Fallons' comments about training the Iraqi's and Kurds in counter IED, and we've got loads of UOR stuff with no budget to keep it going, or that has already been superceeded by other stuff.
makes sense really, we'd get fuck all for it in scrap.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Just adding this on end, not right thread i know, but reckon people here will like to see it - regime goon torches his own manorial house as rebels close in
dylanredefined
Not a house elf a tiger
It looks odd as they are changing the barrel.
ska invita
back on the other side
I've been reading Loretta Napoleoni's analysis of IS - book called The Islamist Phoenix. Found it clearly written and as im no expert i found it fairly illuminating.
Does anyone have an opinion on her?
interviewed here, summarising her understanding
one point she made in the book, nor particularly deep but i liked it, was how she compares the US record of nation (re)building in Iraq vs what IS have achieved -in comparison to funds and power it really does show up just what a failure the US handling of their war has been
Does anyone have an opinion on her?
interviewed here, summarising her understanding
one point she made in the book, nor particularly deep but i liked it, was how she compares the US record of nation (re)building in Iraq vs what IS have achieved -in comparison to funds and power it really does show up just what a failure the US handling of their war has been
coley
Well-Known Member
Very soft interview, hardly mentioned the brutality that IS has demonstrated,made "ethnic cleansing" sound no worse than putting people on the bus and moving them elsewhere, and her assertion that they will limit themselves to the small area they have captured?
She's obviously a fan, but naive or an opportunistic apologist?
butchersapron
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Politically she is well dodgy and i wouldn't touch her with a ten-foot bargepole. I started on her book (put it here) but her style and clear professional interest in bigging up ISIS' success and modernity put me right off so i binned it. Check her apologia for china's authoritarian capitalism as well: Maonomics: Why Chinese Communists Make Better Capitalists Than We Do.
Patteran
A nowadays excuse
Couple of online sources reporting significant Peshmerga operation against IS in Sinjar - although the Peshmerga & Rudaw News apparently have form for over-inflating their activities in the area.
Edited to add - confirmation that the operation is real, co-ordinated with NATO, & on-going - seems to be an attempt to drive IS out of Sinjar town, which would relieve the siege of the mountain.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/12/17/us-mideast-crisis-sinjar-idUSKBN0JV15E20141217
Edited to add - confirmation that the operation is real, co-ordinated with NATO, & on-going - seems to be an attempt to drive IS out of Sinjar town, which would relieve the siege of the mountain.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/12/17/us-mideast-crisis-sinjar-idUSKBN0JV15E20141217
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ska invita
back on the other side
you mean she benefits professionaly from making ISIS seem more successful than they are? TBH I havent read anythign in the book that overly inflated their success, though perhaps its pretty short on their shortcoming.
I didnt read anything in the text that really raised an eyebrow, but her job did get my radar pinging
coley
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I do like a bit of understatement
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Peshmerga offensive on/around Sinjar having great success by many - siege broken. Hard to tell if just barzani complaint PR though
Al Jazeera & Reuters reporting it too......100 ISIS dead (hope it's true).
http://america.aljazeera.com/articl...atebesiegedsinjarmountainfreeinghundreds.html
Geri
wasn't born to follow
IS to be referred to as Daesh by US following requests from partners.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/dec/19/us-general-rebrands-isis
I prefer this as I have a perfume called Isis...
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/dec/19/us-general-rebrands-isis
I prefer this as I have a perfume called Isis...
J Ed
Follow Back Pro Expropriation
He will mourn them as he hates the Kurds
bluescreen
tofu eating wokerati
The Daily Vile is now alleging that IS is selling organs from live hostages. There don't seem to be any reliable news sources reporting this. I call bullshit. Why do they have to make things up, considering the existing charge sheet against IS? Who benefits most from this kind of story? Whose patsy is the Daily Mail? 
likesfish
You can't park here sir
I'm sure they would if they could but cant see it as a viable plan.
Same story was being told during kosovo that albanians were doing it too serbs. Again wouldnt doubt that albainan maifa would if they could but cant see it as something you could pull off.
Daily mail claim they sold the organs of their dead fighters
cant really see an organ transplant team rushing around a battlefield or airstrikes leaving many healthy organs.
The fuckers massacre kill aid workers practice slavery domt really need to add anything tomthe charge list.
Same story was being told during kosovo that albanians were doing it too serbs. Again wouldnt doubt that albainan maifa would if they could but cant see it as something you could pull off.
Daily mail claim they sold the organs of their dead fighters
cant really see an organ transplant team rushing around a battlefield or airstrikes leaving many healthy organs.The fuckers massacre kill aid workers practice slavery domt really need to add anything tomthe charge list.
bluescreen
tofu eating wokerati
I agree with all that. I don't understand the need to make up these stories, or who's doing it.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
The biggest whopper there is "The jihadist group has until now filled its $2million-a-year war chest"...
kenny g
Sheeple Awake!
I'm sure they would if they could but cant see it as a viable plan.
Same story was being told during kosovo that albanians were doing it too serbs. Again wouldnt doubt that albainan maifa would if they could but cant see it as something you could pull off.
Daily mail claim they sold the organs of their dead fighters
The fuckers massacre kill aid workers practice slavery domt really need to add anything tomthe charge list.
I thought there was quite a compelling case organ transplants took place:- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organ_theft_in_Kosovo has quite a good overview.
bluescreen
tofu eating wokerati
You may be right. I'd have thought their budget would be bigger, and they make a fair bit from ransom, to say the least. Do you have a good source on this? (Not doubting you, just glad to have more info.)
butchersapron
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It's not even close to even being near a real figure, it's sort of like dating London is ran on the equivalent amount. I'll post some links when I get out of the bath if no one else has first.
bluescreen
tofu eating wokerati
Ta. I'd have thought they were out by a factor of ten, but perhaps I've just been brainwashed.
Johnny Canuck3
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butchersapron
Bring back hanging
No, I'm just going in the bath.
Johnny Canuck3
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Thanks for sharing. 
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Sorry for delay, had to go buy teabags as well. Can't seem to find the killer article i had in my pocket archive but a quick google brings up loads anyway:
Fuelling Isis Inc - $1-5 million a day just from bootlegged oil - never mind taxes, theft, auctions, kidnappings,smuggling etc - and Napoleoni mentioned above as the world 'expert' on the financing of terrorism reckons they have savings of at least $2 billion (p.31).
Fuelling Isis Inc - $1-5 million a day just from bootlegged oil - never mind taxes, theft, auctions, kidnappings,smuggling etc - and Napoleoni mentioned above as the world 'expert' on the financing of terrorism reckons they have savings of at least $2 billion (p.31).
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