The Islamic state

[butchersapron]

This could be really important, ypg/ypj said to be making good advance from serekaniye east of kobane toward kobane in an attempt to link kobane canton and Jazira Canton in the north east. Seen a lot of dead beardies there last few days.

 

[inva]

Jenan Moussa: "Acc to sources in #Kobane, ISIS still has presence in both South & East Kobane. And they still do shell the city."
link
hard to tell what that presence is consisting of at the moment though.

 

[Pickman's model]

Turkey has reportedly been accused of not only providing strategic intel on Kurdish fighters to the Islamic State but also of being involved in training jihadi militants.
http://www.ibtimes.co.in/turkey-tra...e-data-kobanes-kurdish-fighters-report-611458

hope not already posted!

 

[coley]

https://mobile.twitter.com/search/gallery?q=#Kobane&idx=3&tid=522474945147064320

Bastards

 

[teqniq]

Turkey has reportedly been accused of not only providing strategic intel on Kurdish fighters to the Islamic State but also of being involved in training jihadi militants.
http://www.ibtimes.co.in/turkey-tra...e-data-kobanes-kurdish-fighters-report-611458

hope not already posted!

This does not surprise me, saw a tweet yesterday saying Turkey have been providing assistance to the Islamists in Libya

 

[Dogsauce]

Is that recent support? At the start of the civil war in Syria there was talk by many countries of giving aid to all kinds of anti-Assad groups, so in that context it would have appeared less out of order than it would do now.

(link doesn't work for me btw, article renders with blank lines rather than text)

Retaining Kobane will be a big morale boost for Kurdish groups everywhere, might embolden some of the groups within Turkey, even if it may have been with a fairly big assist from western air power.

 

[teqniq]

Dogsauce article is from yesterday

here is full c&p

Turkey has reportedly been accused of not only providing strategic intel on Kurdish fighters to the Islamic State but also of being involved in training jihadi militants.
An explosion in Kobane, after an ISIS suicide bomber blew up a truck near a YPG hideout.
An explosion in Kobane, after an ISIS suicide bomber blew up a truck near a YPG hideout. Reuters
A WND report, citing sources from Jordanian intelligence, claimed that several ISIS members have been trained by NATO member Turkey for secret operations.
According to the report, a senior security officer stated that 16 ISIS members were arrested recently, while trying to sneak into Jordan, via the Syria border. During the course of interrogation, the militants revealed that they were sent for conducting bomb blasts in the country. The arrested also told Jordanian authorities that several ISIS militants received their training in Turkey.
The revelations come at a time when Turkey has been widely blamed for bombing the camps of Kurdish fighters and supporters in Kobane, with warplanes and artillery.
According to the Wall Street Journal, Turkey bombed camps of the Kurdistan Workers' Party on Monday, marking the military's first significant offensive against the PKK since peace talks began two years ago.
The move was bound to help the ISIS, which has been fighting hard to gain control of the town from Kurdish fighters for around a month.
Turkey has also been blamed for providing logistics, intelligence and satellite imagery to the ISIS fighters, to aid them in their fight against the Kurds.
Another report, citing an Egyptian official, noted that Turkey provided key intelligence data to the ISIS, exposing the positions of Kurdish fighters, and the locations of their weapons and ammunitions.

 

[Patteran]

This could be really important, ypg/ypj said to be making good advance from serekaniye east of kobane toward kobane in an attempt to link kobane canton and Jazira Canton in the north east. Seen a lot of dead beardies there last few days.

This was mentioned last night on twitter, and then closed down by another commentator saying there was a media-blackout on YPG advances in that area. I guess there are issues with social media filling blanks in Daesh's intelligence-gathering ability.

bulent ‏@nihiliumm 16h16 hours ago
@kovandire i rt @Avashin : please respect YPG media blackout on Cizire fronts(SereKaniye, Til Tamir, Hassake, Til Hamis and Til Koce

 

[SpookyFrank]

do you think the plucky defenders of kobane will pursue them as they flee headlong into the desert?

They probably don't have the ammo or supplies left to go heading out into the desert after ISIS.

 

[kebabking]

They probably don't have the ammo or supplies left to go heading out into the desert after ISIS.

indeed - however a fighting withdrawl under enemy air supremacy is about the most difficult military manouver there is. when IS is in Kobane (or anywhere else) its a pain in the arse to hit them without also hitting friendlies/civvies. when they are retreating across the open desert on the other hand then its a free-for-all...

t'was ever thus - armies sustain their highest number of casualties when running away.

 

[butchersapron]

This was mentioned last night on twitter, and then closed down by another commentator saying there was a media-blackout on YPG advances in that area. I guess there are issues with social media filling blanks in Daesh's intelligence-gathering ability.

bulent ‏@nihiliumm 16h16 hours ago
@kovandire i rt @Avashin : please respect YPG media blackout on Cizire fronts(SereKaniye, Til Tamir, Hassake, Til Hamis and Til Koce

Something on this.

Yep, social media can meant death. ISIS were apparently having to moan on at their new recruits to shut up before getting geolocated.

 

[butchersapron]

Found another great pic earlier as well:

A bit of revolutionary continuity in the face of attacks on theatre and that ISIS lot.

 

[butchersapron]

Loads of dead beardies. NSFW. This is the stuff Patteran and me were talking about earlier. Media blackout well over.

 

[miss direct]

Wish I hadn't clicked on that.

 

[Pickman's model]

Wish I hadn't clicked on that.

i dunno, they looked kind of peaceful i thought. the ones with hands and that.

 

[miss direct]

I've been having nightmares recently which I'm sure is related to seeing images of headless bodies and war victims. Those have been on facebook, which I haven't been able to control, but I should have known better than to click on a link that even says not safe.

 

[Pickman's model]

I've been having nightmares recently which I'm sure is related to seeing images of headless bodies and war victims. Those have been on facebook, which I haven't been able to control, but I should have known better than to click on a link that even says not safe.

nsfw covers a multitude of sins, from sexy things to sordid things to shot-up things.

i wondered whether the uncovering of the chest was to make sure none of them were wearing suicide bombs.

 

[miss direct]

I know, but on a thread like this it was unlikely to be boobs now was it?

 

[Pickman's model]

I know, but on a thread like this it was unlikely to be boobs now was it?

yes.

 

[Teaboy]

Given the amount of US airstrikes against IS in and around Kobane am I right in thinking that there are US special forces in the city? I mean how can they be hitting the right areas without good info?

So if the Turks are helping IS (directly or indirectly) we have a situation where two NATO members are de-facto fighting each other?

 

[dylanredefined]

nsfw covers a multitude of sins, from sexy things to sordid things to shot-up things.

i wondered whether the uncovering of the chest was to make sure none of them were wearing suicide bombs.

Probably or just result of stripping them of any armour or ammo carrying vest they were wearing.

 

[Pickman's model]

Probably or just result of stripping them of any armour or ammo carrying vest they were wearing.

good point.

 

[butchersapron]

Given the amount of US airstrikes against IS in and around Kobane am I right in thinking that there are US special forces in the city? I mean how can they be hitting the right areas without good info?
?

Through being told.

 

[Teaboy]

Through being told.

By whom though? Is the communication between the Kurds defending the city and the US that good? That reliable?

 

[inva]

By whom though? Is the communication between the Kurds defending the city and the US that good? That reliable?

ypg say they're giving coordinates

 

[Pickman's model]

Given the amount of US airstrikes against IS in and around Kobane am I right in thinking that there are US special forces in the city? I mean how can they be hitting the right areas without good info?

So if the Turks are helping IS (directly or indirectly) we have a situation where two NATO members are de-facto fighting each other?

you must have got very confused with afghanistan, with pakistan letting american convoys through to fight the taliban while the taliban were being sponsored by the pakistani isi.

 

[butchersapron]

By whom though? Is the communication between the Kurds defending the city and the US that good? That reliable?

The ypg/ypj. They're quite good at fighting.

 

[Teaboy]

The ypg/ypj. They're quite good at fighting.

Of course, I'm just surprised that the communication links are that good.

 

[Teaboy]

you must have got very confused with afghanistan, with pakistan letting american convoys through to fight the taliban while the taliban were being sponsored by the pakistani isi.

This is the problem with thinking that most people are inherently good. I really need to drop the ideal.

 

[SpookyFrank]

indeed - however a fighting withdrawl under enemy air supremacy is about the most difficult military manouver there is. when IS is in Kobane (or anywhere else) its a pain in the arse to hit them without also hitting friendlies/civvies. when they are retreating across the open desert on the other hand then its a free-for-all...

t'was ever thus - armies sustain their highest number of casualties when running away.

There will probably be a fair few ISIS deserters if they are finally chased out of Kobane as well.