Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
it'll bump up the number of refugees to a round 10,000,000.
The Islamic state
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DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
I'd assume it'd be targetted stuff using from people on the ground identifying targets rather than just carpet bombing. The region has been bombed from above on and off for most of my adult life, so clearly its a winning tactic for lasting peace
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
that's why it's so cunning, they won't be expecting it again
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
Daesh have captured 'the last' remaining regime held oilfield apparently.
Islamic State takes Syrian government's last oilfield, reports say
They also have allowed 1000 pilgrims to go saudi arabia from mosul. Lets hope some of them manage to get out
1,000 from Daesh land could lose homes if they don’t return after Haj
Islamic State takes Syrian government's last oilfield, reports say
They also have allowed 1000 pilgrims to go saudi arabia from mosul. Lets hope some of them manage to get out
1,000 from Daesh land could lose homes if they don’t return after Haj
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
The Islamist zero hour
Interesting and well researched essay about the origins, factors of support, and ideology of daesh here, i'm not sure i agree with all the conclusions because towards the end he calls for military action against assad and jabhat al nusra as well
Interesting and well researched essay about the origins, factors of support, and ideology of daesh here, i'm not sure i agree with all the conclusions because towards the end he calls for military action against assad and jabhat al nusra as well
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
Idris2002
canadian girlfriend
Drones have evolved selfhood now?a drones killed a couple of twats one Welsh one Scottish who'd joined daesh apparently in self defence
LDC
On est tous des pangolins
a drones killed a couple of twats one Welsh one Scottish who'd joined daesh apparently in self defence
Which bit is the facepalm for? (I could so be a grammar/punctuation pedant here too!)
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
these people joined daesh in self-defence?a drones killed a couple of twats one Welsh one Scottish who'd joined daesh apparently in self defence
SpineyNorman
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Who the fuck is this freak? I expect a higher standard of loon on this site but maybe we've been spoilt in the past.
Seemingly taking offence at any and all criticism of IS is dodgy as fuck and I do think there's explaining to be done here, not least the apparent thinly veiled antisemitism.
J Ed
Follow Back Pro Expropriation
Casually Red
tomorrow belongs to me
I think there was something about an app , and the loons were warning their other members about it afterwards . And this immediate threat business sounds like something they've just made up .
8ball
Decolonise colons!
That seems to be what he's arguing yes
Well, if Assad and IS were to be comprehensively wiped out tomorrow, I reckon I'd get over it before teatime.
not-bono-ever
meh
I am not an IS apologist but there is nearly fuck all chance that these pair of cannon fodder dupes were in a position to mastermind a cunning attack on the UK.IMO of course
LDC
On est tous des pangolins
I don't know, and obviously we're never going to be in the position to evaluate the 'evidence' either way, but it doesn't take a huge stretch of imagination to think they could have been co-ordinating/directing/helping facilitate some activities in the UK.
I'd hazard a guess that while they themselves might not be the instigators of attacks in the UK, they might well have been being used due to their contacts (level of trust established with people in the UK for example) and language skills by others in IS to do so.
LDC
On est tous des pangolins
Reading between the lines it does sound like that was the case, although to what extent I think we won't know. I think the State is also saying they were also involved in failed plots earlier in the year.
It might also be that these two were being looked at due to the previous issues, and then they were hit due to logistical and practical considerations that made it possible, rather then them being the only targets.
LDC
On est tous des pangolins
hash tag
Books, not bombs
Were these people guilty of anything? No, they did not have a trial, no given the right to defend themselves, which is usually what happens under British Law.
Oh, sorry, this was not in Britain. So we have the right to go killing individuals in one off attacks in other countries?
Do I feel safer because of those killings? If anything, I now feel less safe and fear repriasals.
NOT IN MY NAME
Oh, sorry, this was not in Britain. So we have the right to go killing individuals in one off attacks in other countries?
Do I feel safer because of those killings? If anything, I now feel less safe and fear repriasals.
NOT IN MY NAME
LDC
On est tous des pangolins
Nice simplistic sloganeering, but yes, the British State does have a 'right' to kill those it decides are an immediate risk to UK interests without recourse to trial.
The attack wasn't undertaken to make you feel safer, and how you feel now is irrelevant to the issue at hand, so any argument for or against it should be based on something more useful than your feelings I'm afraid.
The attack wasn't undertaken to make you feel safer, and how you feel now is irrelevant to the issue at hand, so any argument for or against it should be based on something more useful than your feelings I'm afraid.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
it doesn't seem right that the british state can just rock up anywhere they like and give someone the missile handshake, but its nothing new. And the violins here are a bit small I'm afraid, in this case
Last time a brazen whack job like this shocked me was when Isreal flew a copter down a busy street then planted a missile right through the windowscreen of the target. I was gobsmacked at it. (this was ages ago, before the rise of cyberdyne and the drones)
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