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It's very interesting. I'm not sure how much faith I place in it when it says things like this though:



Thats certainly not how I remember things evolving in terms of the first signs of violence.

Well that's certainly not what the British media were telling you . Mind you you were believing what they were telling you about Libya as well . Some Arab media however were reporting this right from the very beginning . The rebel mouthpieces were blaming all this stuff on " shabiha" or just denying it was happening at all . But it most certainly was .
 
this is going to a fuckin stupid question - but where are these WMDs coming from ?

Most of the chemical weapons are in artillery shells (easily-deployable by non-specialists), and are rife in the region from the 1950s on, when former Nazi scientists worked with (variously) Syrian, Iraqi and Egyptian scientists to come up with an effective weapon to use on the state of Israel. The knowledge is there, and the raw materials are there.
I know that some right-wingers are giving it some about this stuff being GW2-era WMDs as per Campbell's "dodgy dossier", but much of Saddam's shit was platformed either for guided missiles or as air-dropped munitions, and only a singularly demented fucker would attempt to crack a missile or a big bomb to re-distribute the chemical pathogens to artillery rounds, when you can cook the more basic shit up in an air-conned trailer with the addition of a pressure airlock.
 
Most of the chemical weapons are in artillery shells (easily-deployable by non-specialists), and are rife in the region from the 1950s on, when former Nazi scientists worked with (variously) Syrian, Iraqi and Egyptian scientists to come up with an effective weapon to use on the state of Israel. The knowledge is there, and the raw materials are there.
I know that some right-wingers are giving it some about this stuff being GW2-era WMDs as per Campbell's "dodgy dossier", but much of Saddam's shit was platformed either for guided missiles or as air-dropped munitions, and only a singularly demented fucker would attempt to crack a missile or a big bomb to re-distribute the chemical pathogens to artillery rounds, when you can cook the more basic shit up in an air-conned trailer with the addition of a pressure airlock.
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Well that's certainly not what the British media were telling you . Mind you you were believing what they were telling you about Libya as well . Some Arab media however were reporting this right from the very beginning . The rebel mouthpieces were blaming all this stuff on " shabiha" or just denying it was happening at all . But it most certainly was .

There are things you can reasonably accuse me of in regards Libya, but simply believing the version that the mass media were telling me is not one of them. Despite making no secret of my desire to see Gaddafi and sons lose their power, all the way along I questioned stories which were 'helpful to my side'. I did not shy away from the possibility of rebel atrocities, and on one of the most critical days for propaganda/international action/media narrative setting, which involved stories of Gaddafi forces murdering people from the skies, I was quite prepared to discuss the propaganda aspects.

Its easy for you isn't it. You just do the same thing as the US used to get away with so much more confidently than it does these days - back the strongmen of your choice and stick with them, deny all stories that harm them, characterise the opposition as all being terrorists, etc.

In any case my criticism of that article was bloody simple. Even if we have much reason to doubt the quality of info from Syria all the way along, the violence there came from many directions. It is quite possible to be honest about this without diminishing the large role that Islamist fighters and various specific Islamist groups had in Syria from quite early on. That article made it sound like there were peaceful protests and the violence only came once a specific Islamist group was activated in Syria. Well they probably get credit for being the first to bring certain kinds of violence to Syria, and being the first to bring violence to a range of locations. But there was loads of violence happening elsewhere in the first months/year that was not triggered by that group. Certainly news of army defections, especially early on, was used as propaganda, but that doesn't mean it didn't happen at all. Its blatantly obvious that there were a bunch of other forces in Syria using violent means because, for example, there was that thing called the Free Syriam Army . Just because it got a lot of western attention and then eventually became irrelevant, doesn't mean it wasn't a real thing at one time that deserves its part in the story.
 
ISIS tried to silence him, but pianist won't stay quiet - CNN.com

Ahmed stared at his burning instrument for about 10 minutes, feeling as if his heart was burning along with it. He thought about his nation, Syria, and the nation of his grandfather, Palestine. He looked at the fighter in black and wondered if they had won -- if those ghouls were indeed their own nation, the Islamic State, and if he was doomed to live there.

Then he gathered his wife and his young son and daughter and walked them to the checkpoint out of Yarmouk.

The family had already decided to leave, taking their most precious belongings with them. Strangers and neighbors tried to comfort the four as they trudged through the rubble that lies everywhere in Yarmouk. "It's OK, Ahmed," they said. "At least you have your family, at least you have your health. It's OK."
 
There are things you can reasonably accuse me of in regards Libya, but simply believing the version that the mass media were telling me is not one of them. Despite making no secret of my desire to see Gaddafi and sons lose their power, all the way along I questioned stories which were 'helpful to my side'. I did not shy away from the possibility of rebel atrocities, and on one of the most critical days for propaganda/international action/media narrative setting, which involved stories of Gaddafi forces murdering people from the skies, I was quite prepared to discuss the propaganda aspects.

Its easy for you isn't it. You just do the same thing as the US used to get away with so much more confidently than it does these days - back the strongmen of your choice and stick with them, deny all stories that harm them, characterise the opposition as all being terrorists, etc.

In any case my criticism of that article was bloody simple. Even if we have much reason to doubt the quality of info from Syria all the way along, the violence there came from many directions. It is quite possible to be honest about this without diminishing the large role that Islamist fighters and various specific Islamist groups had in Syria from quite early on. That article made it sound like there were peaceful protests and the violence only came once a specific Islamist group was activated in Syria. Well they probably get credit for being the first to bring certain kinds of violence to Syria, and being the first to bring violence to a range of locations. But there was loads of violence happening elsewhere in the first months/year that was not triggered by that group. Certainly news of army defections, especially early on, was used as propaganda, but that doesn't mean it didn't happen at all. Its blatantly obvious that there were a bunch of other forces in Syria using violent means because, for example, there was that thing called the Free Syriam Army . Just because it got a lot of western attention and then eventually became irrelevant, doesn't mean it wasn't a real thing at one time that deserves its part in the story.

Again you're wrong . At the very beginning there were police and others being killed by mystery snipers and the like . Not months later .We now have admissions from groups sponsored by 2 western intelligence agencies, and others, that large amounts of telecommunications equipment were smuggled into Syria long prior to any protests and the networks of " spontaneous protest " were being set up long before they broke out . Indeed nobody even turned up for the first ones . The deliberate destabilisation of Syria was planned long in advance along with the lies and misinformation that accompanied it from day one . This former French foreign minister admitted the plan to send armed terrorists in emanated from the British , years before . None of this was spontaneous no matter how many credulous fools believe the guardian and BBC . Or , god forbid, Al jazeera .



But of course you'll simply dismiss it . It was a fluffy uprising all along .


And absolutely nowhere have I stated the Syrian government haven't engaged in brutal , murderous and stupid actions. Nowhere at any time. Challenging the western narrative of the course of events means no such thing . You believe , as you did regards Libya, that a nice fluffy spontaneous revolution went wrong somehow . It was a preplanned coup , as was Libya, utilising the scum of the earth from the very beginning and planned for well in advance. no more spontaneous that what occurred in Venezuela . Or chile for that matter .
 
Middle east week have new podcast out about ISIS child soldiers but i dont think im in the right place to listen to it :(
 
Heartlessness towards refugees is the lifeblood of Isis

I dont have much time for quilliam but charlie winter has a good piece here about how jihadis are exploiting the refugee crisis in syria

Also:

Civilian deaths claimed in 71 US-led airstrikes on Isis
Airwars’ project leader Chris Woods said that while it was encouraging that the coalition was investigating so many claims, Centcom was often worryingly quick to decide there was no case to answer: more than 80% of the cases were concluded within 48 hours of the claim being received.

“The situation in Iraq and Syria is particularly fraught and getting information out of the areas is a challenge. There just doesn’t seem to be evidence here that the coalition is keeping a genuinely open mind and reassessing as new information comes through,” Woods said. “When you look at it on a case-by-case basis, there’s cause for concern here.”
 
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http://www.dailynewsegypt.com/2015/09/03/the-egyptian-lie/

Post here about ISIS in egypt and the dishonesty of Sisi's security services

“There is indeed an expansion of ISIS in mainland Egypt,’’ confirms Horrowitz. These two attacks point to ‘’the fact that ISIS reorganised its operational capacities in mainland Egypt’’. It is no secret that the continued iron fist policy provides fertile ground for militant recruitment. A particularly painful, but revealing, scene, towards the end of the video, shows young children cheering on militants as they return from their 1 July attack.

But Egypt is dealing with a multiple front war when it comes to terror and problematically, Al-Qaeda is one of those fronts thus mirroring an international pattern of competition between ISIS and AQ. Yet, you will be hard pressed to find nary a mention of this, Al-Qaeda inspired, dynamic in mainstream Egyptian press and the deep state’s verbiage. Three attacks betray this competitive binary: the assassination of General Prosecutor Hisham Mubarak, the attack near the Helioplois Court and, more recently, an attack in Beheira, near Alexandria, which killed three and injured when a bomb went off near a bus carrying conscripts.

In the Egyptian zeitgeist, however, all these attacks are lumped together as the work of Islamist extremists that are, ultimately, according the government narrative, linked directly or indirectly to the Muslim Brotherhood. This sort of oversimplification and manipulation of facts is one of the chief reasons the government continues to lag behind in its fight against organised terror-well on its way to being an organised insurgency. To combat ISIS, which far outpaces its governmental opponent in understanding modern media, Horrowitz suggests a change in tactics. But that is not an easy task and many western state actors have failed. ‘’Egyptian army has to develop a new media strategy to counter ISIS propaganda,’’ because the old ways will no longer cut it against ‘’an actor like ISIS that has learned the codes of today’s PR’’. Put succinctly, the army needs to heed our mother’s warning about lies. From a rational standpoint, credibility is garnered most efficiently by relaying a facsimile as near to reality as possible. The Egyptian army must become “a reliable source for journalists”, said Horrowitz. Currently, it is not.
 
http://www.cbc.ca/m/news/world/member-of-dutch-air-force-may-have-joined-isis-in-syria-1.3213909

A serving member of the Dutch air force may have joined Daesh in Syria

The Dutch Defence Ministry says that a serving member of the country's air force may have travelled to Syria to join the Islamic State group.

The ministry released little information about the case Thursday, saying only that it was a 26-year-old member of the air force who has now been suspended from service.

The ministry says in a written statement that the member had been blocked from "all access to information, systems and locations."
The scumfucker previously discussed here was also in the dutch army before he joined daesh afaik
 
The podcast is really good, talking about ways to help these kids and de-radicalisation programmes (which arent about deradicalisation but more about a safe place for the children) which have had some success in similar cases like the taliban. Unfortunately hes saying there may not be much political will to help these kids :(

I dont think they can really be held responsible for their actions but once their out of the isis setting they will be so confused and fucked up :(
 
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Islamic State Release Their Own 'Fake' Currency

Haha who would have guessed. The gold daesh dinar isnt actually real gold :)

Meanwhile people who live under the IS group in Mosul don’t even have enough bandwidth to watch such a long video, one that is hopelessly trying to convince the audience of the merits of the gold dinar, once the symbol of an Islamic empire at its peak.

Sources in Mosul spoke to NIQASH about how people there are not ready to accept this new currency.

And the people working in Mosul's local gold retail sector – the city used to have Iraq’s largest gold markets - confirm that the coins are not even pure gold. “They are a total fraud,” one local goldsmith told NIQASH. “Just a metal galvanized with 21 carat gold,” he said disdainfully. That shocked many locals who had been considering exchanging some of their own money for the new dinars.

But what of the philosophy behind the new IS-hyped gold dinar? The anti-capitalist message has parts that many Islamic thinkers may subtly agree with should they be dragged into such a discussion of economics regarding interest rates and taxes. Hard line Islamists may prefer a gold currency because its value transcends time and location as well as for it's taut symbolism: it reminds them of what once was an Islamic empire with a unified currency – also a golden dinar – for hundreds of years.

Interestingly, it also resonates with Western economists who advocate “hard money” policies – a return to a gold or silver standard – and who are far from Islamist. In fact the IS group used some of those advocates in their video to give more credibility to their message. People like former US Presidential candidate Ron Paul are mentioned as is the IS group's “favourite”, investment adviser and author, Mike Maloney. The latter is also the producer and host of an online series, Hidden Secrets of Money, focussing on gold and silver in history.
 
Daesh using the refugee crisis to claim that the caliphate is a safe place where everyone will be welcomed, and also saying that if you go europe you are a kuffar and deserve death. :(
 
http://www.cbc.ca/m/news/world/member-of-dutch-air-force-may-have-joined-isis-in-syria-1.3213909

A serving member of the Dutch air force may have joined Daesh in Syria


The scumfucker previously discussed here was also in the dutch army before he joined daesh afaik

Hmmm. When I was in Sudan years back I met a Dutch guy who was (according to what he's told me and others over a range of conversations) ex-Dutch special forces but had converted to Islam, and was involved with an Al-Qaeda linked outfit in Sudan.

Smelt fishy at the time. Thought nothing more of it. Sudan has its fair share of Walter Mitty types, wannabe Jihadis and shady spooks kicking around.

Thinking back, it's no wonder I got into the trouble I did!
 
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