The Islamic state
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BigMoaner
What A Load of Old Bollocks
they can fly out there, as long as we don't let them back in.
kebabking
Not a Girly Swot, but I like them....
if they are using the brits to work in their communications nodes - which seems to be the case - then that makes them easier to locate...
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
Tbh I think he might be dead.
J Ed
Follow Back Pro Expropriation
LOL
I've just finished doing temp work for them and one of the line managers just had a complaint put in about her because she told three Muslim girls "I don't know why the agency hires you people!", she's going to be even worse off now.
kebabking
Not a Girly Swot, but I like them....
quite possible. UK politicians might be squeamish about talking about targetting and killing individuals - in a way that the US and French aren't - but that doesn't extend to having it done. the Americans also have him towards the top of their shit list, which is not a place for someone looking forward to a long and happy retirement.
he might be in hiding within IS territory, but the various authorities know who he is, and if he's not dead already then either he will be, or he'll spend the rest of his life in the deepest, darkest American prison cell yet invented.
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
8ball
Decolonise colons!
It doesn't encourage burning prisoners to death either.
Nine Bob Note
Self-Isolating before it was fashionable
I know Mohammed hated seeing his picture in the papers...
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
8ball You say that but Daesh are guite good at digging back through obscure old texts to find examples of where that sort of thing has been allowed, based on the idea of 'qisas' or an eye for an eye etc.
Its obviously completely prohibited in mainstream Islam but unfortunately al-Baghdadi and co really know their stuff, making arguments with them on a religious basis quite difficult. They've immersed themselves in this shit for years. However mainstream muslim imams etc say they are not real muslims and however true that is arguing with daesh over religion is likely to make a lot of people very seriously embarrassed, not because their position is correct but because these guys have spent so much time thinking about their theology, al baghdadi allegedly has a phd in this stuff.
Any attempt to defeat daesh has got to start from a political and economic pov rather than religion. At worst even if you manage to convince a hard core salafist that isis isn"t the real islam they might try to join some sort of group that to their mind is even more extreme.
Its obviously completely prohibited in mainstream Islam but unfortunately al-Baghdadi and co really know their stuff, making arguments with them on a religious basis quite difficult. They've immersed themselves in this shit for years. However mainstream muslim imams etc say they are not real muslims and however true that is arguing with daesh over religion is likely to make a lot of people very seriously embarrassed, not because their position is correct but because these guys have spent so much time thinking about their theology, al baghdadi allegedly has a phd in this stuff.
Any attempt to defeat daesh has got to start from a political and economic pov rather than religion. At worst even if you manage to convince a hard core salafist that isis isn"t the real islam they might try to join some sort of group that to their mind is even more extreme.
BigMoaner
What A Load of Old Bollocks
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Retired. I like the Idea of an Isis equivalent to Bournemouth. Just pottering about on the front, playing bowls and shit. I wonder what the Isis pension is like.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
The only (partial) "saving grace" being that most of the psychotic etc manpower is so ill-trained in basic tactics that they either become REMFs or die quickly on the front lines.
Humberto
Relax
This is the problem. There is no arguing with them that I can see. They don't seem to be interested in a discussion. Just nutters that our own govt. helped create obeying the law that there is a price to pay for dismantling countries and causing millions of deaths.
8ball
Decolonise colons!
In which case I'm sure they could come up with something to justify celebrity executioners.
In any case, I hope you're right and the fucker's dead.
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
I was really tempted to start trolling and winding them up on their blogs but its not worth it is it?
Humberto
Relax
I wouldn't, but then you might raise a few smiles and learn something from it at least.
TBH I don't really understand their mindset enough that I could attempt it.
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
Yeh i wasmt thinking of snything more clever than mindless insults tbh
8ball
Decolonise colons!
I think they're fragile enough that if you did it cleverly you could really upset them.
Humberto
Relax
J Ed
Follow Back Pro Expropriation
Yes, a lot of them are just manbabies basically
Humberto
Relax
Depending on your upbringing and experiences it could be easy to be attracted to this (at say potential soldier age) by recent events.
8ball
Decolonise colons!
It's true. But you have to wonder about a group of people who can be driven to such tantrums by a cartoon. Played properly, you might get a few to off themselves before they can take anyone with them.
teqniq
DisMembered
Not a road I'd want to go down tbh, if you are potentially dealing with psychologically fragile people, they can react in unpredictable ways. See bombs and associated atrocities...
8ball
Decolonise colons!
Obviously it's just a thought experiment at this stage.
One might be inclined to advise them on dirty bomb recipes that only kill the user, of course...
Humberto
Relax
I understand where you are coming from and I am comparatively ignorant, but this smacks of fear. What I mean is it implies we can't even engage with them, tackle their bullshit and take the piss out of them. I know the war is real and all, but 'hearts and minds' always helps. As 8ball just said its just fancy possibly unsanctified.
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