The Islamic state

[LDC]

Yeah, if you want to look at it like that fair enough, but it seems a bit odd. Anyway, like I said, I don't consider it at all important.

LDC

 

[kebabking]

Yeah, if you want to look at it like that fair enough, but it seems a bit odd. Anyway, like I said, I don't consider it at all important.

LDC

the post you saw was one element - very much a 'tip of the iceberg' thing - its also worth noting who the post you saw on another forum is from and their qualification for taking such a view.

personally, i'd back that up by suggesting that any group who were sufficiently photo-happy would - were they in Iraq/Syria doing the deed against outr Bearded friends - be plastering every social media site/journalist with their exploits. thus far, it appears, they have not...

 

[butchersapron]

Some more on the two murdered men today, including the network they were with and threat of something horrible to come. The payment issue will probably be used to tarnish their name and that of the people involved.

 

[LDC]

the post you saw was one element - very much a 'tip of the iceberg' thing - its also worth noting who the post you saw on another forum is from and their qualification for taking such a view.

personally, i'd back that up by suggesting that any group who were sufficiently photo-happy would - were they in Iraq/Syria doing the deed against outr Bearded friends - be plastering every social media site/journalist with their exploits. thus far, it appears, they have not...

Fair enough, but likewise, if people are making statements or accusations on the veracity of something then it can be only judged on the information provided, and all I've seen just indicated a piss-taking dig or a rumour, and I thought it best to as a starting point take peoples' statement as to where they had their photo taken as truthful until proven otherwise. But of course if there's more information then fine.

Anyway, much more informative and crucial discussion on here, and thanks to all those posters than seem to be devouring huge amounts of complex news and info and posting it.

LDC

 

[butchersapron]

Some reports that ISIS have managed to retake Ayn Issa from YPG and FSA. I think that would mean they have had to have taken the brigade 93 base as well as it's south-west of the town. I had expected the FSA to use that as staging post for raqqa attack at later date. There have been reports of raqqa itself being emptied of fighters for a week now, so maybe this is the push after the kobani raid. I would have thought that 30 miles from raqqa to there is one of the most heavily monitored places in the world.

edit: reuters posting it as fact via sohr. sohr were posting nonsense about turkish YPG clashes in tel abyad over the weekend. Hard to know whose in control of these things.

 

[hipipol]

I will travel work tomorrow on a bus, not one that goes via any major tube/rail exchange
will be a tempting date for the religio liars

 

[rekil]

It is a day that will go down in history,
A day of resistance and memory.
The day when the law was accepted,
that in all 50 states same sex marriage is permitted.
Oh, but it it is not for that reason that it shall be remembered.
It is not for this we praise.
To convert our bodies to those of pigs.
We do not live to oppose the way of nature, nor do we agree with this repeat.
The resemblance of now to the past is very great
How little have people learned from the lake of Lut.
They are all drowning their future
- in a river which flows but to one direction.
It is in Hell they shall reside, taking back what they now call in pride.

Do they have any about Geordie Shore? Or Lucy Spraggan's disgraceful mockery of X-Factor?

 

[Greebo]

<snip>Would you want to live in a society where the receptionist attempt flirting with your husband, or would you want to live in a society knowing full well that your husband is in Ribat surrounded by no women whatsoever.





Lol

I'd prefer a man who is not so weak as to be led by his genitals when his head (or at least his heart) ought to be in charge.

 

[frogwoman]

You could turn it around Greebo

Would you like to live in a society where the receptionist harmlessly flirts with your husband every day? Or would you like to live in a society where they're both beheaded?

 

[Greebo]

<snip> Would you like to live in a society where the receptionist harmlessly flirts with your husband every day? Or would you like to live in a society where they're both beheaded?

My disastrous ex (who's been mentioned more than enough to bore the lot of you) reckoned that European women were unprotected by their familes, and that living in student halls, on the same floor as male students (many of whom were in their mid 20s and happily married) was placing sheep among wolves. One of the many reasons for him to be an ex.

 

[frogwoman]

Tbh i feel really sorry for the kids of people that have gone off to daesh from the uk and other parts of europe, what about if they turn out to be gay? or not as insane as their parents

Fucking hell Greebo

 

[Greebo]

Tbh i feel really sorry for the kids of people that have gone off to daesh from the uk and other parts of europe, what about if they turn out to be gay? or not as insane as their parents

Fucking hell Greebo

He wasn't even a fundie - he drank, smoked, never prayed, (obv had sex outside marriage,) didn't go near a mosque and didn't observe Ramadam - about the only Muslim things he did were refusing to eat pork products, having a go at me for wanting to decide for myself what was so bad about The Satanic Verses, several unsuccessful attempts at tricking me into saying the Shahada, and being idolatrous about not turning the radio off halfway through what he claimed might be a religious programme in arabic (which he wasn't even listening to). He used his cultural values as an excuse for a ridiculously high level of jealousy and control.

I suspect that some of young European-raised recruits to daesh find its values and attitudes equally convenient.

 

[frogwoman]

He wasn't even a fundie - he drank, smoked, never prayed, (obv had sex outside marriage,) didn't go near a mosque and didn't observe Ramadam - about the only Muslim things he did were refusing to eat pork products, having a go at me for wanting to decide for myself what was so bad about The Satanic Verses, several unsuccessful attempts at tricking me into saying the Shahada, and being idolatrous about not turning the radio off halfway through what he claimed might be a religious programme in arabic (which he wasn't even listening to). He used his cultural values as an excuse for a ridiculously high level of jealousy and control.

I suspect that some of young European-raised recruits to daesh find its values and attitudes equally convenient.

Yeah ive heard that a lot of people who join daesh arent even that religious and the best indicator of who will become a terrorist is who their friends are rather than how religious they are.

 

[frogwoman]

A lot of them seem to have serious problems with women as well.

 

[frogwoman]

He wasn't even a fundie - he drank, smoked, never prayed, (obv had sex outside marriage,) didn't go near a mosque and didn't observe Ramadam - about the only Muslim things he did were refusing to eat pork products, having a go at me for wanting to decide for myself what was so bad about The Satanic Verses, several unsuccessful attempts at tricking me into saying the Shahada, and being idolatrous about not turning the radio off halfway through what he claimed might be a religious programme in arabic (which he wasn't even listening to). He used his cultural values as an excuse for a ridiculously high level of jealousy and control.

I suspect that some of young European-raised recruits to daesh find its values and attitudes equally convenient.

There was one of their blogs where they were complaining that people in the uk were allowed to walk round naked but you could be arrested for having a beard

 

[Greebo]

There was one of their blogs where they were complaining that people in the uk were allowed to walk round naked

Tbf, by their standards, that's not untrue. If you think that the torso, arms, and legs should be covered in public at all times as an absolute minimum, and that Islamic modesty* requires everyone to show nothing more than their hands, face, and feet in public, then I'd seem naked to them, unless dressed for an interview in winter.

*not all Muslims take this line, but some do. Also, some take the line that Islamic modesty is just for Muslims as an expression of their faith and piety, other Muslims think that everyone should be forced to do it - no matter what their religion.

 

[Pickman's model]

There was one of their blogs where they were complaining that people in the uk were allowed to walk round naked but you could be arrested for having a beard

i think they've got things arse about tit

as the naked rambler will tell you

 

[frogwoman]

Tbf, by their standards, that's not untrue. If you think that the torso, arms, and legs should be covered in public at all times as an absolute minimum, and that Islamic modesty* requires everyone to show nothing more than their hands face and feet in public, then I'd seem naked to them, unless dressed for an interview in winter.

*not all Muslims take this line, but some do. Also, some take the line that Islamic modesty is just for Muslims as an expression of their faith and piety, other Muslims think that everyone should be forced to do it - no matter what their religion.

Yea but Daesh also bang on about how in the west 'rapists and paedophiles are around every corner' with no sense of irony whatsoever

 

[Greebo]

Yea but Daesh also bang on about how in the west 'rapists and paedophiles are around every corner' with no sense of irony whatsoever

Not the first religious movement claiming to be a panacea for social ills.

 

[Pickman's model]

six hsbc staff sacked for making fake isis execution video on training away day

 

[Pickman's model]

Not the first religious movement claiming to be a panacea for social ills.

tha auld dope peddler does more for society tho

 

[frogwoman]

six hsbc staff sacked for making fake isis execution video on training away day

what were they thinking making that sort of video at a staff training day?

 

[Patteran]

six hsbc staff sacked for making fake isis execution video on training away day

An odd story. I'd rather they were sacked for being corrupt carpetbaggers than for producing a daft video lampooning IS. I'm not going to feel sorry for bankers, but HR scouring social media for potentially offensive material seems more ominous than shit jokes.

 

[Pickman's model]

An odd story. I'd rather they were sacked for being corrupt carpetbaggers than for producing a daft video lampooning IS. I'm not going to feel sorry for bankers, but HR scouring social media for potentially offensive material seems more ominous than shit jokes.

you do see that a bank sacking its staff for being corrupt carpetbaggers is unlikely to happen, right?

 

[frogwoman]

An odd story. I'd rather they were sacked for being corrupt carpetbaggers than for producing a daft video lampooning IS. I'm not going to feel sorry for bankers, but HR scouring social media for potentially offensive material seems more ominous than shit jokes.

Agreed. ISIS pisstake videos are one of my favourite things to watch on youtube along with 'thug life' videos and pictures of cats

 

[frogwoman]

An odd story. I'd rather they were sacked for being corrupt carpetbaggers than for producing a daft video lampooning IS. I'm not going to feel sorry for bankers, but HR scouring social media for potentially offensive material seems more ominous than shit jokes.

Who is it offensive to? If it offends isis, then, well, good

 

[kebabking]

what were they thinking making that sort of video at a staff training day?

depends on your experience of HSBC customer service i suppose - rumbled would be my view...

 

[Casually Red]

i think they've got things arse about tit

as the naked rambler will tell you

I've just thought of a remedy to his predicament .

 

[Pickman's model]

I've just thought of a remedy to his predicament .

perhaps you should share it with him.

 

[kebabking]

perhaps you should share it with him.

what, biblicly?