The Elizabeth Line (aka Crossrail) is go!
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Starry Wisdom
it'll only ever see one man make a journey in it, alexander boris de pffefel johnson in a vain attempt to flee ahead of a ravening mob
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
tbf, naming shit after living people is just weird, so it's nice of them to delay it until Brenda's brown-bread 
Like with everything else in the country the pandemic has put a huge spanner in the works. Whilst some work could still continue on it the availability of people to do the work has been limited.
Anyway, tfl are about to go bust anyway so there won't be anyone to run it...
Indeed they are.
My company has had a fair amount of involvement in the project but a lot of it has always been rather opaque. Its quite difficult to get a handle on where they are actually at. My educated guess was that with a fair wind they may have got it up and running to a degree by the end of the year. What with everything that has happened I don't expect it will happen till late spring 2021. This though depends on how the pandemic pans out from here.
The question is should they be rushing now (and in doing so increasing costs) when there is no demand. With so many people who work in London doing their job sat at a desk behind a screen can companies reasonably justify asking their employees to get back onto crowded trains? Its going to be ages till demand gets back to previous levels.
MrCurry
right after this urgent rest
Well it’s pretty normal in construction to not admit to delays until they become obvious when the thing doesn’t actually open on time, so “opaque” sounds about right. I just checked the crossrail Wikipedia page and it refers to a forecast completion of mid 2021, so I’ll go with spring 2022 if we are taking bets.
You’re probably right that the pandemic has taken some of the heat out of the urgent demand, so that will no doubt cause the whole thing to get spun out further.
I’m trying to remember what the originally promised go-live date was - end of 2018, does that sound right?
You’re probably right that the pandemic has taken some of the heat out of the urgent demand, so that will no doubt cause the whole thing to get spun out further.
I’m trying to remember what the originally promised go-live date was - end of 2018, does that sound right?
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
i admire your optimismtbf, naming shit after living people is just weird, so it's nice of them to delay it until Brenda's brown-bread
Sounds right. It was always a tight schedule given the complex nature of the project.
Dogsauce
I’ve got Skol but I’m not a Scholar
I was thinking about this yesterday, as although there will be disruption and staff absent there might also be opportunities to undertake some of the work with far less disruption than during normal times, they could possibly even shut some of the interchange stations down completely without significant impact on the world.
We all know crossrail is way behind schedule and that always brings the same comments about how this always and only happens in the UK. So whilst this is unrelated to crossrail and rail in general its worth mentioning because UK construction never gets recognised when they pull off things like this:
www.constructionenquirer.com
Britain’s biggest road project opens to traffic eight months early
£1.5bn A14 upgrade hailed as a triumph for client-led integrated working
www.constructionenquirer.com
Of course as is all greenfield building and certainly compared to rail tunneling through the probably most subterranean wise congested cities in the world. I was just making a general point that UK construction often brings in massive infrastructure projects on time and budget but it never gets talked about.
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
Should do more if it then!
Starting with most of Surrey?
Upgrade the A3 to motorway. Also I find it a pain having to drive round to the M23 so a big motorway inbetween would be handy. We should upgrade the Leatherhead bypass.
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Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
All sounds good, terrible bottleneck heading south at Guildford. Also turn Croydon in to a motorway, all of it.
As to a cut through to the M23, just grub up that shitty, slow rail line from Reading to Gatwick and slap down down Audi-friendly asphalt. Would cut journey times to Brighton and also save Emirates money on their first and business class chauffeur service, a win-win
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All sounds good, terrible bottleneck heading south at Guildford. Also turn Croydon in to a motorway, all of it.
As to a cut through to the M23, just grub up that shitty, slow rail line from Reading to Gatwick and slap down down Audi-friendly asphalt. Would cut journey times to Brighton and also save Emirates money on their first and business class chauffeur service, a win-win
I understand that by the end of the pandemic Gatwick will have returned to a grass strip RAF base so probably won't need that railway line anyway.
MrCurry
right after this urgent rest
Oh dear
Is sept 2025 still available in the sweepstake?
Crossrail needs extra £450m and delayed until 2022
The project's CEO Mark Wild says the project is in its "complex final stages".
www.bbc.com
Is sept 2025 still available in the sweepstake?
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
i always thought you were an optimistOh dear
Crossrail needs extra £450m and delayed until 2022
The project's CEO Mark Wild says the project is in its "complex final stages".www.bbc.com
Is sept 2025 still available in the sweepstake?
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
use the tunnels to grow mushrooms in
MrCurry
right after this urgent rest
I worked too long in the construction industry. Each reported delay is never the full story!i always thought you were an optimist
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
People should just get jobs where they live. People who want to live in Reading and work in London shouldn't be given a 50 billion quid boondoggle, they should be given a slap.
maomao
普費斯
So everyone who works in London Zone 1 should live in Zone 1?
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
If the alternative is to spend public money inflating the housing bubble and worsening the discrepancy between London's economy and everywhere else's.
maomao
普費斯
I don't think that is the alternative.
Though tbh there might be a lot of people working from home (as well as a lot just not working) and a lot of vacant commercial property in central London before long. I've been looking forward to being able to get a direct train to Heathrow but fuck knows when we'll ever be able to fly again anyway.
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Starry Wisdom
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