The Dark Knight review: Gutted
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I think it was a good film it had its flaws most of whih have already been pointed out. If it hadn't been for the massive hype I would have left the cinema thinking it was brilliant. Did the film seem to take th piss out of the series that started with the Burton films and/or fan critcisms of them? Such as Batman knocking the jokerff the bulding then saving him or the bit were it appeared for a second Twoface flipped the coin twice to get the result he wanted? I think the joker knife bit and when/where Dent and Rachel were kidnapped was purposefully left to the imagination or to be put on as an extra on the DVD. Didn't Ledger fail to complete a couple of scenes? Maybe they were of some importance.
Yeah but didn't the Batman mythos deserve a really good series of films? After all, the original 4 weren't that great.
CharlieAddict
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true. yeah very true.
upon reflection, yep.
in the first bale one, we saw the transgression of bruce wayne into Batman, the second it was harvey dent into Two Face.
i loved it nevertheless and so happy they didn't kill off The Joker!!!
The Burton films worked because they embraced, as only Burton can, the madness of the city and it's denizens; Batman included. Keaton's portrayal of Bruce Wayne worked better than Bale's which is as pedestrian as the city. Elfman soundtrack FTW.
That element of absurdity is something missing from these new movies which, by lacking that ironic sense of almost self referentiality, are a bit too poe faced. And poe faced doesn't quite work when you have a character like the Joker.
Turning Dent into Two Face is something the Joker would do, but Two Face deserves better than this; it also stretched the boundaries a little. He wasn't even remotely greatful that peopel tried to save his life and seemed far too eager to believe that no one went to save Rachel, or that the Joker, being ultiamtely responsible, stopped her from being saved by switching their addresses. A bit too contrived.
And I still maintain that GCPD are utterly stupid. 'Hey let's lock up the Joker without checking for weapons, hidden items, or removing his makeup'.
Still the best way to get him to talk would have been to give him an hour with Jeremy Kyle: 'it's Graham on the show folks!'
That element of absurdity is something missing from these new movies which, by lacking that ironic sense of almost self referentiality, are a bit too poe faced. And poe faced doesn't quite work when you have a character like the Joker.
Turning Dent into Two Face is something the Joker would do, but Two Face deserves better than this; it also stretched the boundaries a little. He wasn't even remotely greatful that peopel tried to save his life and seemed far too eager to believe that no one went to save Rachel, or that the Joker, being ultiamtely responsible, stopped her from being saved by switching their addresses. A bit too contrived.
And I still maintain that GCPD are utterly stupid. 'Hey let's lock up the Joker without checking for weapons, hidden items, or removing his makeup'.
Still the best way to get him to talk would have been to give him an hour with Jeremy Kyle: 'it's Graham on the show folks!'
Kid_Eternity
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too right - it was fucking amazing!!!!
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my only problem with the movie was how Two-Face had such a small role.
FFS, he was meant to be a crime boss!!!
Bale couldn't be more of the perfect Bruce Wayne!
but as Batman, his voice irritates.
it's the best Batman yet.
Well it's possible he might survive but I doubt it though tbh I thought his role was perfectly proportionate given the film was really about the Joker. I didn't mind the Batman gruff voice really, I like the sound of his controlled rage! Can't fucking wait for the next one!
sleaterkinney
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I'm going to see it tonight on the basis of Wookey's review, because he's usually wrong.
Bob_the_lost
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What knife in the police cell? The one he uses to hold the policeman hostage? That's a shard of broken glass. Maybe i missed something.
I liked it, wonder how they'll take it on from there though and didn't like the bullshit bit at the end, since when did Gordon get overcome with literary aspersions? He's supposed to be a police officer not Homer, i wish it'd had been drowned out more
I liked it, wonder how they'll take it on from there though and didn't like the bullshit bit at the end, since when did Gordon get overcome with literary aspersions? He's supposed to be a police officer not Homer, i wish it'd had been drowned out more
Kid_Eternity
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Apparently you can watch the whole thing online here: http://76.12.251.170/watch_18485.html
Kid_Eternity
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You need Div X installed, I'm watching it right now and it's a fairly good copy with decent loading times.
Kid_Eternity
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Weird I've been watching the film for the last 30 odd minutes on that link. It's not the trailer as far as I can see!
Kid_Eternity
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*shrugs* You gonna grass to the mods?
Kid_Eternity
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True but it wouldn't be the first time something pirate orientated had been posted on here.
Lord Camomile
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You two, see below and pay more attention
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I wasn't sure, but I think Gordon got lucky by not dying, and then the concocted the ruse to trap the Joker after that.
I also agree that I thought Two-Face was somewhat underused, by which I mean specifically Two-Face and not the whole Harvey character. Having built Harvey Dent up the entire film, they didn't take much time to explore Two-Face's character, or the whole split-personality, Harvey/Two-Face dichotomy. Thought that was a shame, but still thought what they did do was very good.
no trailer i ever saw was 2.23 hours long!
Kid_Eternity
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The acting was excellent, from Oldman, Ledger and the Dent character. Bale didn't really play the main role in this one, but did the job.
The sound was fine, I heard every single word. The bit at the end was loud because it was climaxing towards the final moments.
There was more than one plot line, boo hoo to those who can't cope with this.
There were comedy moments where people in the audience were laughing. The Joker's magic trick at the beginning was both funny and disgusting.
Stop whinging.
The sound was fine, I heard every single word. The bit at the end was loud because it was climaxing towards the final moments.
There was more than one plot line, boo hoo to those who can't cope with this.
There were comedy moments where people in the audience were laughing. The Joker's magic trick at the beginning was both funny and disgusting.
Stop whinging.
Lord Camomile
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I thought that in particular was a brilliantly efficient character introduction, really tells you what you need to know in (almost literally) one quick movement, that is also very cool in itself.
sleaterkinney
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Unsurprisingly, wookey's review is completely wrong, it's a very very good movie.
Lord Camomile
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he he, yeah, pretty much the same reaction when I saw it. First they laugh at the joke, then they realise exactly what happened...People laughed then went, "urgh..."
Kid_Eternity
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Well said. Especially about the humour.
The biggest laugh in the cinema was when the young lawyer tried to blackmail Morgan Freeman's character, and he said something along the lines of:
"We're talking about one the of the wealthiest men in the world, who is also a vigilante who has killed numerous people and can't be caught. And you're trying to blackmail him".
"We're talking about one the of the wealthiest men in the world, who is also a vigilante who has killed numerous people and can't be caught. And you're trying to blackmail him".
