the all new 2005 who's taking a trip to holloway thread

[mk12]

Cheers.

 

[Pickman's model]

yr alright!

but i'll have a bottle of sparkling water off you in the coronet.

 

[mk12]

Coronet:

A small crown worn by princes and princesses and by other nobles below the rank of sovereign.

A chaplet or headband decorated with gold or jewels.
The upper margin of a horse's hoof.

 

[audiotech]

look guys there is a very very weak argument that people over 12 should be allowed to have consensual sex - if that is MC5's view, then mate, take it get done with it.

The dutch model seems to be a good idea in my view (you can have sex with people more or less within your own age bracket up to about 18 - 12 can shag 14, 15 can poke 18... more or less). It is predatory sexual advances by people 3 times the age of the minor which is the problem, esp. those using money and power (money, celebrity or divinity) or a position of trust to get their target.

What the sparts are clearly saying is that anyone can have sex with anyone of any age and the cases they choose to defend are clear cases of abuse. Which argument are you associating yourself with here MC5?

And no, you didn't 'start it' but you are the ONLY person i have ever seen defend this incredibly fucked uo piece of spart policy.

If sex with anyone of any age includes sex between prepubescent children and adults then clearly that is indeed a fucked up policy whoever puts it forward. I read it as being about an issue to do with age of consent for homosexuals in the US. Rather than defending the policy as you put it, I was trying to understand what their actual policy is on the subject.

We believe that in any kind of sexual relations, the guiding principle should be effective consent, regardless of age, gender or race. That is, if those involved have effective knowledge and desire to do whatever it is they will, that should be the end of it.

I would have thought that referring to effective consensual sex, along with effective knowledge, makes clear they are not condoning predatory, sexual abuse on anyone and particularly children?

The Dutch model is the reality for most teens there and here.

 

[oisleep]

http://www.beerintheevening.com/pubs/s/63/6320/Coronet/Holloway

 

[mk12]

 

[oisleep]

<scotsman> i bent down that fast to pick that up it hit me on the back of the heid </scotsman>

 

[justuname]

You lot would love it if any Trots cared enough to organise an 'intervention'.

Well No Sweat are running a meeting and they're run by a trot group, the alliance for workers liberty. Good they're there if you ask me, must have got in under the radar of the more sectarian anarchos.

 

[oisleep]

also are that conspiracy 9/11 group not there as well, no plane or something like that

 

[mk12]

Have Bookmarks ever been to this event?

 

[oisleep]

what event?

 

[mk12]

Anarchist Bookfair.

 

[oisleep]

ah, when's that then?

 

[mk12]

Sigh.

 

[gurrier]

Sorry, confused the Irish Workers Solidarity Movement with the World Socialist Movement.

No worries, I should have made it clearer.

At least 3 members of the WSM (irish one) will be at the bookfair and maybe as many as 8. Sadly I won't be able to make it this year though.

 

[Blagsta]

Hmmmm, me and Red Cat might make it this year.

 

[mk12]

Will anybody be selling second hand books?

 

[oisleep]

Will anybody be selling second hand books?

where?

 

[mk12]

Mr Grumble is never content. No matter what happens, he grumbles and complains about it. On a lovely day, he'd say "Bah, I hate the hot sun!" and when it snows he'd complain about the cold - he's never satisfied! And when Oisleep refuses to answer a simple question, he'd go "for fucks sake, answer the damn question!"

 

[butchersapron]

What about Mr Tickle?

 

[mk12]

"Mr Tickle likes nothing more than to tickle any unfortunate passers by."

Reminds me of someone on this thread.

 

[butchersapron]

"Mr Tickle likes nothing more than to tickle any unfortunate passers by."

Reminds me of someone on this thread.

Ryazan is making an effort - don't ruin it for him.

 

[rednblack]

Will anybody be selling second hand books?

yes, lots of them

 

[mk12]

yes, lots of them

Woo hoo!

 

[butchersapron]

I've bought all the good ones already though.

 

[oisleep]

i heard a rumour last night, that frankie jawbone may put in an appearance

 

[rednblack]

i heard a rumour last night, that frankie jawbone may put in an appearance

he's going on the caberet stage

 

[mk12]

I've bought all the good ones already though.

Mr Greedy is the greediest person alive. When he comes to visit, make sure there's no [books] lying around or [they] will soon be gone.

 

[butchersapron]

Mr Greedy is the greediest person alive. When he comes to visit, make sure there's no [books] lying around or [they] will soon be gone.

Mr Sneaking Puppy laughs at Mr. Forgetful of the SWP.

(yep, sent off about 4pm today mate)

 

[Pickman's model]

in't that a picture of mr galloway?