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Thames estuary airport plan

bi0boy said:
That airliner successfully landed on water with no fatalities. It probably could have done the same in the Thames estuary, but not on a residential street in Hounslow.
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A: It is exceeding rare that a plane can land on water without disintegrating and killing many on board. I know of no other examples of a heavy jet managing it.

B: Hounslow is not a major feeding ground for mamouth flocks of geese and other birds who gather in the millions around the Isle of Grain. Hounslow has scruffy pigeons, jet engines have little to fear from pigeons.
 
Bahnhof Strasse said:
Argument against estuary airport #23

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As someone who has flown into London City and seen fear on the faces of the air stewards as we went into land I would say an estuary airport is a DUMB idea. It took me years to fly into City again!!
 
If three MAJOR international airports and one minor airport are not enough to serve an 80 mile diameter then, frankly, it is a sign that your 80 mile diameter is WAY overpopulated.

Rather than feed the overpopulation more and more by increasing the airport capacity still further, why not incentivize a diaspora away from that 80 mile diameter towards other parts of the country? Move the jobs and the people will go with them. And maybe they can then fly from those other parts of the country instead.
 
kabbes said:
If three MAJOR international airports and one minor airport are not enough to serve an 80 mile diameter then, frankly, it is a sign that your 80 mile diameter is WAY overpopulated.

Rather than feed the overpopulation more and more by increasing the airport capacity still further, why not incentivize a diaspora away from that 80 mile diameter towards other parts of the country? Move the jobs and the people will go with them. And maybe they can then fly from those other parts of the country instead.
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Spot on.
 
Dan U said:
heh, was involved in a couple of parties there in consecutive weeks in the same building, not a copper to be seen
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Was one at Halloween by any chance? If so, we broke the building, when I say "broke" the fucking door was unlocked!
 
Bahnhof Strasse said:
Was one at Halloween by any chance? If so, we broke the building, when I say "broke" the fucking door was unlocked!
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i can't remember tbh, was a long time ago

i remember breaking a building down there and then being surprised it was just left by the owners to be used again!
 
Dan U said:
i can't remember tbh, was a long time ago

i remember breaking a building down there and then being surprised it was just left by the owners to be used again!
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It's a mad place right enough, and yeah, never saw a sniff of bacon in about 6 parties we done there.
 
Surely they can't go on and on fucking up ALL the living space in order to provide transport links until the point is reached that it is so unpleasant that all the people living there have to spend all their time travelling elsewhere in order to avoid being in their own environment?
 
kabbes said:
If three MAJOR international airports and one minor airport are not enough to serve an 80 mile diameter then, frankly, it is a sign that your 80 mile diameter is WAY overpopulated.

Rather than feed the overpopulation more and more by increasing the airport capacity still further, why not incentivize a diaspora away from that 80 mile diameter towards other parts of the country? Move the jobs and the people will go with them. And maybe they can then fly from those other parts of the country instead.
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Couldn't disagree more. The UK depends utterly on the trading and service centre within the SE megaconurbation. Concrete over the green belt, add a dozen more lanes to the M25, build NW-SE and NE-SW rail links which make Crossrail and Thameslink look like trams, and all will be well. Then we can keep the rest of the country going as a kind of industrial and agrarian theme park.
 
kabbes said:
Surely they can't go on and on fucking up ALL the living space in order to provide transport links until the point is reached that it is so unpleasant that all the people living there have to spend all their time travelling elsewhere in order to avoid being in their own environment?
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According to the estuary airport proposal, a 4 track high speed london orbital rail line will be built, as there is no way it can go through north Surrey, I reckon Leith Hill will need flattening out for it. You can play at being Jenny Agutter.
 
Maurice Picarda said:
Couldn't disagree more. The UK depends utterly on the trading and service centre within the SE megaconurbation. Concrete over the green belt, add a dozen more lanes to the M25, build NW-SE and NE-SW rail links which make Crossrail and Thameslink look like trams, and all will be well. Then we can keep the rest of the country going as a kind of industrial and agrarian theme park.
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:D

I have some sympathy for this, though. It may be necessary to write off certain chunks of the island to human development in order to keep things sustainable (and that is more energy efficient too). And the green belt has always been a stupid idea. It simply displaces development from the bits of land that wealthy commuters like to live in. A golf course is not countryside.
 
their has been talk of a HS rail link between Heathrow and Gatwick to create a kind of hub.

i hope they just make a rocket propelled mono rail out the back of Gatwick North
 
kabbes said:
If three MAJOR international airports and one minor airport are not enough to serve an 80 mile diameter then, frankly, it is a sign that your 80 mile diameter is WAY overpopulated.

Rather than feed the overpopulation more and more by increasing the airport capacity still further, why not incentivize a diaspora away from that 80 mile diameter towards other parts of the country? Move the jobs and the people will go with them. And maybe they can then fly from those other parts of the country instead.
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There are two minor airports - Stansted and City.

We also have an airport down here (Manston) which is very under-used and a lot of their international flights don't operate any longer. So I don't think there is much demand from the Medway towns :D

The infrastructure and environmental costs will be huge. I wonder if once HS2 is built, more people will use regional airports?
 
Actiually, I had remembered Stanstead but forgotten Luton.

So that's five international aiports in total. And they want to build another? Madness.
 
kabbes said:
Actiually, I had remembered Stanstead but forgotten Luton.

So that's five international aiports in total. And they want to build another? Madness.
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Six if you include London Southend. Seven if you want to really take the piss and include London Oxford Airport :facepalm:
 
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