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Tesco coming to Loughborough Junction?

Been in Loughborough Junction 11 years, moving a mile or two south this year, but more to get off the estate, get an affordable house and be nearer mates than just to get away from the area..

I don't think it's as rough as it used to be, and I can honestly say I've never had any trouble the whole time I've been there. The Green Man was always dodgy but at least it was open. The shutting of all the pubs has really ripped the guts out of the area, the only slight benefit being that it's not such a crime hotspot as it was.

The place has seen a lot of the old housing stock done up and quite a lot of new blocks of flats built, but the shops to support those people have gone downhill. House prices have risen quite a bit, no shortage of affluent residents - the Thameslink direct to Blackfriars/Farringon/King X attracts plenty of city commuters.

Most of the shops sell the same lower end booze, Tesco will corner the market in wine above the £5 mark and all sorts of others 'luxury' items. Every affluent shopper will immediately go there and the smaller businesses will lose their custom. Doesn't bode well for them.
well, you cater for whoever you want to live in the area. What I am wondering about is how Tesco and Sainsbury's have divided Brixton, with the North seemingly becoming a Tesco garrison and the South Sainsbury's controlled (bar the occasional exception), what like East coast West coast, gaza/gully,
Tesco probably also doesn't sell single cigarettes to adults, (which is a good way to cut down/quit/not start again)
 
well, you cater for whoever you want to live in the area.

Are you suggesting that Tesco are putting a shop in because they want a certain type of people to live in Loughborough Junction? They're putting a shop there to make money.
 
well, you cater for whoever you want to live in the area....
No - supermarkets identify sites they deem to be "market opportunitites" (i.e. no other supermarket within 5 or 10 mins walk, empty shops/old pubs available, disposable income in the area etc...) and open them up.
 
so how come they are opening them up one after the other now?? Of course they want to make money, and they are not stupid, they have noticed that the local community is changing and now there is a demand for it. Let's see how long Brixton market survives, don't think the locals will be buying much cow foot, goat and choochoo soon, but at least there will be decent latte.
rant over
 
so how come they are opening them up one after the other now??
Tesco and Sainsburys have been "opening them up one after the other" regularly in the Brixton area for about 10 years now, it's not a recent phenomenon. It's part of the supermarkets' strategy - once they'd ravaged the high streets by moving all the big stores out of town, from the early 2000's they've moved back into the desolated high streets in order to take over the corner shop/grocery market with their 'local'/'metro' stores.
 
oh well, let's resign to the fact we've been colonised then.
You don't have to shop there. Personally I don't shop in any supermarkets - I find it's much more interesting (and often cheaper) to find your food elsewhere.

The problem with many of the new metro/local-style shops is that the supermarkets often already own the sites (having bought them years ago) and do not require planning permission for change of use, given many of them already have the relevant consents in place. You'll notice the new Tesco in LJ are just applying for stuff like cashpoints and air vents - there's little anyone can do to stop them now, just as we found out in the case of the new Tescunts shop on Brixton Road. Just dont give the cunts your money.
 
so how come they are opening them up one after the other now?? Of course they want to make money, and they are not stupid, they have noticed that the local community is changing and now there is a demand for it. Let's see how long Brixton market survives, don't think the locals will be buying much cow foot, goat and choochoo soon, but at least there will be decent latte.
rant over
The street fruit and veg market has managed to survive despite being right next to a big Iceland supermarket, a Sainsburys, a M&S food hall and with Tesco just up the hill, so I don't see it disappearing any time soon. In fact, it's been growing recently with the arrival of the Sunday Farmers market.
 
Isn't a farmer's market selling local produce? Brixton market's fame lies in its Caribbean roots and products, where are you gonna get that once the market sells speciality foods, consists of eateries and delis and carrot cake?
 
Isn't a farmer's market selling local produce? Brixton market's fame lies in its Caribbean roots and products, where are you gonna get that once the market sells speciality foods, consists of eateries and delis and carrot cake?
You seem to be describing a different street market to the one I frequent. I've never seen a carrot cake stall on Electric Avenue and the Farmers Market sells all sort of stuff including flowers, fruit and veg, bread, meat, cheese etc., as well as some cakes.
 
Isn't a farmer's market selling local produce? Brixton market's fame lies in its Caribbean roots and products, where are you gonna get that once the market sells speciality foods, consists of eateries and delis and carrot cake?
Markets always sell to their customer base and Brixton thrived by adapting and selling cowfoot and salt pork to people of Caribbean heritage. That's made Brixton what it is, but it never was and never will be static. People cross London to buy salt pork here, and as long as there's a demand, the market will continue to supply them. Brixton is much less monocultural than it was - there many more people (and businesses) with Latin American, Middle Eastern and African heritage, as well as the shops selling latte and carrot cake (do they still sell it at the Ritzy btw?).
 
I think you're confusing the carrot cake bit of the market (Granville Arcade/"brixton village") with the street market on Electric Avenue.
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I don't believe your vision of a carrot cake future for the street market is likely to arrive any time soon.
I'm not sure the whole carrot cake metaphor is a good one at all.If I remember both the Ritzy and Brixton Wholefoods sold it from their very beginnings.(the name Spacey Tracy pops into my head for some reason)
 
I think you're confusing the carrot cake bit of the market (Granville Arcade/"brixton village") with the street market on Electric Avenue.
I am not confusing the markets, just made an assumption that at this rate of gentrification/change, the fruit/veg/meat bit of the market (Carribean/Chinese/British etc, other than 'Farmer's Market') be it inside or outside (there is still inside market of fruit/veg left mind you) will be slowly but surely replaced by cake/deli/up-market foods, rather then selling what the market once was famed for. Purely because the clientele is changing. And I think that is a shame, but seems inevitable, especially after reading a lot of the posts today
 
Markets always sell to their customer base and Brixton thrived by adapting and selling cowfoot and salt pork to people of Caribbean heritage. That's made Brixton what it is, but it never was and never will be static. People cross London to buy salt pork here, and as long as there's a demand, the market will continue to supply them. Brixton is much less monocultural than it was - there many more people (and businesses) with Latin American, Middle Eastern and African heritage, as well as the shops selling latte and carrot cake (do they still sell it at the Ritzy btw?).
True, but the customer base that is coming will determine a lot more than that, like Ladbroke Grove.
 
I am not confusing the markets, just made an assumption that at this rate of gentrification/change, the fruit/veg/meat bit of the market (Carribean/Chinese/British etc, other than 'Farmer's Market') be it inside or outside (there is still inside market of fruit/veg left mind you) will be slowly but surely replaced by cake/deli/up-market foods, rather then selling what the market once was famed for. Purely because the clientele is changing. And I think that is a shame, but seems inevitable, especially after reading a lot of the posts today
So long as the street market provides a cheaper, faster and friendlier way of picking up fruit and veg than the supermarkets, I really can't see Electric Avenue turning into a fancy cup cake emporium any time soon.
 
There are currently 5 'mini-marts' in and around LJ I think (Sunstar opp. The Warrior, Omsakthi on Milkwood Road, Superway just past the final bridge on the way to Camberwell, Supersaver Express a little way further on the other side and the ex-post office just past Padmore Road [is Savemore on the corner of Loughborough Road still open? That'd be 6] There's also Kashmir Halal for fruit veg and meat [and the greengrocers in Loughborough House? Again I'm not sure that's still open]). I can't imagine they will all survive the coming of a Tesco - it's a miracle they all survive as it is it seems to me...

Kashmir Halal would be a big loss, it's very good, excellent selection and good prices (and very friendly). Supersaver is IMO the best of the general shops, and probably better placed to survive than eg Sunstar, so let's hope so. A Tesco would suck the life out of the East side of LJ though I think.

There is one thing I will use it for, which cannot be got for love nor money in the other shops: fresh cream. I hope Tesco have built a business plan based on only selling fresh cream.
 
So... there was talk of Tesco taking over the ex-Crown (as per this thread) and I hadn't heard any more about it in the meantime, but I've just walked past the site next to what used to be the Junction (and many other names previously I'm sure - ie. on Coldharbour Lane just after you pass under the railway bridge if you're arriving in LJ from the Brixton direction) and there is hoarding up there announcing the arrival of a Tesco Express.

:confused: / :( This had totally passed me by. Wasn't aware of there being an application or anything.

To rub salt in the wound the hoardings are covered with slogans such as "making a difference in the community" or suchlike and a freephone number for "feedback" or suggestions.
 
So... there was talk of Tesco taking over the ex-Crown (as per this thread) and I hadn't heard any more about it in the meantime, but I've just walked past the site next to what used to be the Junction (and many other names previously I'm sure - ie. on Coldharbour Lane just after you pass under the railway bridge if you're arriving in LJ from the Brixton direction) and there is hoarding up there announcing the arrival of a Tesco Express.

:confused: / :( This had totally passed me by. Wasn't aware of there being an application or anything.

To rub salt in the wound the hoardings are covered with slogans such as "making a difference in the community" or suchlike and a freephone number for "feedback" or suggestions.

Slightly off topic, but I looked a house next to there that was clearly a brothel (she said she was a therapeutic masseuse, which is a fantastic euphemism). One of the reasons we didn't buy it was because the planning consents round there are all over the place- almost no building that can't be used as retail/ commercial.
 
the planning consents round there are all over the place- almost no building that can't be used as retail/ commercial.

Not sure that's a bad thing, it used to be quite a commercial centre and despite what people who don't know much about LJ might say, there's still a lot of stuff going on with lots of mechanics' workshops and a couple of small industrial estates with various things being made in them. It means that there are quite a lot of people around in the daytime and it's not just a residential dormitory wasteland. I think that's healthy and what a city should be all about, and am in fear of the planners redesignating stuff in the years to come, with all the industry being converted into flats like most other parts of London.
 
Not sure that's a bad thing, it used to be quite a commercial centre and despite what people who don't know much about LJ might say, there's still a lot of stuff going on with lots of mechanics' workshops and a couple of small industrial estates with various things being made in them. It means that there are quite a lot of people around in the daytime and it's not just a residential dormitory wasteland. I think that's healthy and what a city should be all about, and am in fear of the planners redesignating stuff in the years to come, with all the industry being converted into flats like most other parts of London.
Yeah, see your point, but when you could be sandwiched between two kebab shops, or a tesco and a TKMaxx with no comeback, it didn't seem like a risk worth taking. (plus IMAGINE the state of those carpets)

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