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I'm at work and not much to do except make sure the place doesn't burn down so I had a bit of a dig around, didn't find much on PLO T55s but found some other stuff.


"The Syrian equipment, much of it Russian-made, was captured in the early stages of the war, before the Syrians retreated to positions in the Bekaa Valley of eastern Lebanon.

It included Soviet-made T-55 and T-62 tanks but none of the more contemporary T-72's, ''which we hit and destroyed with our own tanks or from the air, but which we did not capture,'' the officer said."


"Syria had always regarded Lebanon as part of Greater Syria and wanted it to be obedient Lebanon. In Late 1975, units of the Syrian PLA (Palestinian Liberation Army - auxiliary troops of the regular Syrian Army) and members of the Saiqa (the Syrian-sponsored PLO faction) were sent into Lebanon to fight on the side of Muslim forced during the height of the Civil War."


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And a blog dedicated to ME armour and AFV's of all descriptions. More tanks than you can shake a Panzerschreck at.

 
Daft tank fact of the day which I'd not noticed before.

Most* British tanks names start with the letter C, (there is some debate as to how and why but I'm going with Lt. Col. R. G. Duffield (retd.).

Comet
Churchill
Crusader
Centurion
Chieftain
Challenger

IN 1921 the British Army decided to classify its weaponry into four broad categories. Tanks were given a 'C' categorisation and, during several military exercises which followed, this letter was actually painted on to the participating tanks. It wasn't long before tank crew members began scrawling nicknames on their vehicles as a continuation to this initial letter ('Cockalilly' was one such famous example). In the subtle way that institutions often have of stamping out a practice by absorbing it, the Army Department responded by giving names (rather than numbers) to their new generation of tanks and ensuring that each name began with a 'C'. The innovation soon became an established tradition.


Lt. Col. R. G. Duffield (retd), ex-14th Armed Lancers and Lineshooters, Tunbridge Wells, Kent.


*not all - I'm looking at you Valentine.
 
Daft tank fact of the day which I'd not noticed before.

Most* British tanks names start with the letter C, (there is some debate as to how and why but I'm going with Lt. Col. R. G. Duffield (retd.).

Comet
Churchill
Crusader
Centurion
Chieftain
Challenger

IN 1921 the British Army decided to classify its weaponry into four broad categories. Tanks were given a 'C' categorisation and, during several military exercises which followed, this letter was actually painted on to the participating tanks. It wasn't long before tank crew members began scrawling nicknames on their vehicles as a continuation to this initial letter ('Cockalilly' was one such famous example). In the subtle way that institutions often have of stamping out a practice by absorbing it, the Army Department responded by giving names (rather than numbers) to their new generation of tanks and ensuring that each name began with a 'C'. The innovation soon became an established tradition.


Lt. Col. R. G. Duffield (retd), ex-14th Armed Lancers and Lineshooters, Tunbridge Wells, Kent.


*not all - I'm looking at you Valentine.
"Cruiser" tanks are C. Covenanter and Cavalier in the list, too. All modern tanks are considered Cruiser derivatives, so the naming scheme sticks.

"Infantry" tanks are whatever the fuck (Black Prince, Matilda, Valentine), but they did decide to name one Churchill anyways. Dead end in tank evolution.
 
"Cruiser" tanks are C. Covenanter and Cavalier in the list, too. All modern tanks are considered Cruiser derivatives, so the naming scheme sticks.

"Infantry" tanks are whatever the fuck (Black Prince, Matilda, Valentine), but they did decide to name one Churchill anyways. Dead end in tank evolution.

Or we could just go with facts... Poor old Lt Col. Duffield.

:D
 
I vaguely remember the BFV being a controversial white elephant in the 1980s.
"The Pentagon Wars" was about it. It was basically that it was a stupidly over specified vehicle to replace the M113. But it was at the point when APCs were being replaced by IFVs and microchips and far more advanced armour arriving so costs had to go way up. A metal box on tracks no longer cut it. It been around nearly 40 years.
 
"Cruiser" tanks are C. Covenanter and Cavalier in the list, too. All modern tanks are considered Cruiser derivatives, so the naming scheme sticks.

"Infantry" tanks are whatever the fuck (Black Prince, Matilda, Valentine), but they did decide to name one Churchill anyways. Dead end in tank evolution.
Centurion did come from a cruiser tank specification but ended up about as heavy as a Tiger and slower. It could hit about 22mph so in reality was really a slightly fast infantry tank rather than anything that resembled a cruiser.

A lot of WW2 ended up actually suiting infantry tanks. Large parts of it were hard grinds through layered defences like Italy and Normandy where it was hill by hill, hedgerow by hedgerow with the British infantry tanks doing the same basic job as the German Stugs and Soviet ISUs. Churchill even did pretty well (apparently) at Stalingrad and Kursk.

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The huge improvements in engine reliability in a 600hp class motor that started with Meteor (Centurion's Merlin derived engine) changed the way tanks were used. It meant you could have something as heavy as a heavy tank but reliable enough to drive around from place to place. The need for a specialist break through tank that could be relied on for about 100 miles faded as the same tank could then carry on driving rather than relying on lighter tanks to carry out the exploitation.
 
Hahaha, no one would be mad enough to try and send AFV's over bridges that are too small would they? :D

Well I’ve never been in the Army but even I know that no one would ever be mad enough to try to send AFVs or self propelled guns over a bridge that was too small. No, that would never ever happen...,
 
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* In b4 it's not a tank crew turn up. :D

From Tank museum Facebook ad. Don't know why they're targeting me, it's a mystery.

"An M7 Priest crosses a bridge made from two Churchill ARKs (Armoured Ramp Carriers), taken in April 1945, crossing the Senio River, Italy.
It is not clear from the angle of the vehicle whether this Priest is the conventional Self Propelled Gun, or a ‘Defrocked’ or ‘Kangaroo’ Priest that has been converted to an Armoured Personnel Carrier. Kangaroos played a key role in this final attack. A total of 102 Priests were converted in Italy."
 
Typical of the rapid advances in armoured warfare at the time, they were obsolete when they rolled off the assembly line.

That being said, Japanese tanks were awful so it may have had some use.
 
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