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SUVs make up more than 40% of new cars sold in the UK – while fully electric vehicles account for less than 2%

Better yet, make driving tests more difficult and have periodic re-tests. Recent observations of people trying to steer with their knees while holding sandwiches, looking round to make eye contact with passengers in the back etc, suggest a good 10-15% of drivers can barely be trusted with a dodgem.
Especially Austrian women in SUVs.
 
It does.

Shame on you for posting a study that supports it!

You're absolutely right and so for balance I shall mention in passing the US studies showing some interesting though not entirely surprising characteristics of male SUV drivers in that country.
 
This is a perfectly normal family car:

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Will probably have something like a small 1.0 - 1.6l 3 or 4 cylinder engine, front wheel drive. Overall length and width exactly the same as any other hatchback out there. Just a bit taller.


This is a range Rover. May well have a 5.0L V8 and be the size and weight of a small planet.

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Both are a "SUV".

Now, I'd still say neither has much right to be driving into the centre of any city, or even being used for the school run of less than 2 miles. But to argue against the first with the same arguments as the latter is just daft.

Hmmm... get your point but I’d say the Nissan is a cross over (ordinary 2wd on stilts) rather than a genuine SUV - merely for the fact that it’s front wheel drive. I may be wrong but I thought a SUV had 4wd capability.
 
Was quite warm Sunday when I headed for Morrisons, parked in the pickup and set down spot was a Range Rover Sport with its engine running. May have had the aircon on. Half an hour later when I emerged, it was still there, the engine was still running.
 
Took a walk down my (very busy) road and I'd estimate one in three cars that I passed were what would be termed a SUV. And all but one had a single driver at the wheel, all doing their bit to make my town even more fucking polluted.

 
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Was quite warm Sunday when I headed for Morrisons, parked in the pickup and set down spot was a Range Rover Sport with its engine running. May have had the aircon on. Half an hour later when I emerged, it was still there, the engine was still running.

Annoys the fuck out of me that does. If you wait in a car and it’s hot just get out and go sit in the shade.

The gym/pool I go to is in the grounds of a posh school and it has hockey and tennis courts and football pitches that are also open to local clubs as well as the school. A number of times have seen one those ocean liner sized Volvo SUVs (always black, do they even do them in other colours??) sat outside with a mum watching TV with the engine running, I go in and get changed, swim for 30 minutes, shower and get dressed again and leave and the fucking thing is still there, ticking over so the TV can be watched. Makes me want to lob a brick through its window.
 
Some are, and some are RWD.


The gf’s Santa Fe is FWD for normal road driving but 4WD can be activated by the push of a button. If it didn’t have the 4WD capability then it shouldn’t be classed as a SUV imo.
 
The gf’s Santa Fe is FWD for normal road driving but 4WD can be activated by the push of a button. If it didn’t have the 4WD capability then it shouldn’t be classed as a SUV imo.
Well this is quite the problem isn't it? There's no generally accepted definition of SUV so dickheads like those who wrote the article in the OP referring to "SUV's" is quite meaningless.
 
Well this is quite the problem isn't it? There's no generally accepted definition of SUV so dickheads like those who wrote the article in the OP referring to "SUV's" is quite meaningless.

Sports Utility Vehicle. Doesn’t actually mean anything. A car that facilitates your sport? My estate is pretty fucking handy if your sport of choice is hare coursing, seeing as it often has a Lurcher in the boot, but never gets called an SUV.
 
And this kind of weird cross-thread beef is not really acceptable either

Is it really cross thread beef when it comes to Marty1?

We always had MPV's growing up. Previa, galaxy, Espace or whatever it was called. Are these judged the same?
 
I can't be arsed to nitpick over what a SUV is, but it sure strikes me as fucking stupid to have cars getting bigger and wider (and therefore, less inefficient and spewing out more fumes compared to a smaller, directly comparable car) when we're facing a climate catastrophe.

Some of Britain’s most popular cars have become too wide to fit through width restrictions on roads and in car parks.
The report found that the 20 best-selling cars this year – which included the Ford Focus, the Mini Cooper and the Fiat 500 – had an average width of 6ft 5in, excluding wing mirrors.

When these cars were compared with the most popular vehicles in 1998 – including the Ford Mondeo, the Vauxhall Cavalier, the Rover 214 and the Nissan Micra – the average width came in at 5ft 5in.

Further analysis compared the growth in like-for-like models over the last 20 years: the most popular models in 2018 with the exact same model 20 years ago. The Nissan Micra 2018 model is now 22 per cent wider than it was in 1998, 1.94m compared to 1m59cm.
Direct Line warned that some family cars have expanded to such an extent over the years they cannot fit between the bollards on some of the tightest width restrictions. The narrowest are just 6ft 6in.

Rob Miles of Direct Line said: ‘This research shows that car shapes have changed dramatically, though roads remain the same width, so it is becoming harder to manoeuvre.’
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I can't be arsed to nitpick over what a SUV is, but it sure strikes me as fucking stupid to have cars getting bigger and wider (and therefore, less inefficient and spewing out more fumes compared to a smaller, directly comparable car) when we're facing a climate catastrophe.

They're wider because of safety regulations. There are better ways to cut CO2 than rolling back vehicle safety.
 
It's a lot bigger in every dimension compared to what passed for a 'perfectly normal family car' 15 years ago.

I'm not sure it is tbh... not for family cars of comparable function/capacity. That was the era of the people carrier, stuff like this:

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And I can't imagine there is any car less aerodynamic than the Nissan Cube:

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n.b Those may be 7 seater examples, dunno. But there were plenty of 5 seat things on those lines.
 
Sports Utility Vehicle. Doesn’t actually mean anything. A car that facilitates your sport? My estate is pretty fucking handy if your sport of choice is hare coursing, seeing as it often has a Lurcher in the boot, but never gets called an SUV.

Most SUVs seem to be driven by blokes who look like their ideal sport would be darts. Even the most modest hatchback has boot space for several sets of darts and probably even a board as well.
 
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