Rushy
basically a scrotum
I am fairly sure the original plans passed by Lambeth had a large public stair at the front giving access to shopping on the first floor. Not clear why this never happened.
Starbucks coming to Brixton
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I am fairly sure the original plans passed by Lambeth had a large public stair at the front giving access to shopping on the first floor. Not clear why this never happened.
teuchter
je suis teuchter
lang rabbie
Je ne regrette les gazebos
Because when Lambeth used compulsory purchase powers and massively subsidised the developer Swan Hill Properties to build the Brixton Central Site phase 1", they thought they were going to be able to attract the sort of fashion stores that operate over several floors with internal staircase/escalator.
There were no takers of the premises, and to avoid the embarrassment of having a completely empty building after throwing so much money at it, they accepted Sainsbury's as the prime tenant.
San Marino have moved into the corner shop of 409/411 Brix Rd on the corner of Station Rd.
Their lease ran out on the old building & apparently it's looking likely that it'll be done up now.
What's yours ?
sleaterkinney
Well-Known Member
Agree with this. I can't really get all that worked up about starbucks - there's already subway, mcds, kfc etc.
Rushy
basically a scrotum
That's great news. Wonder who will replace them? Where's the nearest Burger King?
ska invita
back on the other side
i will jsut add taht an american relative came to stay and we went around central london and he couldnt believe how many strabucks there were - theres a lot more in london than in the US, according to him (hes in chicago and from LA).
overpriced - definitely, tasteless - bit harsh, though always seems sweeter, even when you dont add sugar. the biggest problem is that there are too many of them. oh, and the fact they do their best to fire you if you try and unionise
overpriced - definitely, tasteless - bit harsh, though always seems sweeter, even when you dont add sugar. the biggest problem is that there are too many of them. oh, and the fact they do their best to fire you if you try and unionise
PacificOcean
Unhinged User
Aren't Starbucks franchised and so are independent business?
Just someone paid for the branding?
Just someone paid for the branding?
editor
hiraethified
Not exactly my definition of 'independent.'
http://investor.starbucks.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=99518&p=irol-faq#26956
Crispy
The following psytrance is baṉned: All
Ah, that makes sense. In which case, I expect the 1st floors have inadequate access and servicing to be viable as independent units, which is why they remain empty.
Crispy
The following psytrance is baṉned: All
Hmmm. maybe
You'd need to build on top of Argos as well. Would complicate things a lot. You don't really want to be doing construction over the high street or the existing railway, for safety. Not enough room between the two. I still maintain that the best place is immediately East of the arcades (or even above them, demolishing one of the avenues)
Johnny Canuck3
Well-Known Member
As I said earlier, Sam Walton and the founder of Starbucks started out as small businessmen with one store. And most of the independent businessmen and shopowners you know would love to be as successful as Walton: they're just not able to reproduce that success, for one reason or another.
PacificOcean
Unhinged User
Fair enough.
It's just Subway, McDonalds, Burger King and KFC are franchised, I just assumed that Starbucks was as well.
Johnny Canuck3
Well-Known Member
Look, it's simple: just don't patronize the store. But stop bellyaching when other people happen to like the place.
innit
c'mon, little life giver
Maybe they're less willing to compromise their principles?
I don't really know why you're still on this thread - why should you care what shops we have on our high street?
PacificOcean
Unhinged User
Principles? It's a coffee shop.
He has a point though.
Someone must like it if it's turned from one little coffee shop in Seattle into a global chain?
teuchter
je suis teuchter
Do you retract your assertion that it has been proven that "independent's [sic] don't get forced out" when companies like Starbucks enter the market?
PacificOcean
Unhinged User
Starbucks was an independent once.
Are you telling me that any of the small coffee shops in Brixton wouldn't do the same?
editor
hiraethified
Unless you go around and interview them all, you'll never know, but you'd be foolish to assume that every businessman is after global domination.
I can think of several local businesses who are more than happy to keep their scale of operation local and independent.
PacificOcean
Unhinged User
Fair play to them then, but who doesn't want to be a millionaire?
(I know I sound like a Tory).
FridgeMagnet
Administrator
If any of the independent coffee shops get to the level of being able to cross-subsidise outlets and conduct aggressive economic campaigns to shut down competitors... that could be addressed too. Seems unlikely right now.
Gramsci
Well-Known Member
Just wondering if u where trying to make some criticism of "Urbainites"?
innit
c'mon, little life giver
Well exactly, it's a global chain not a coffee shop. And it's renowned for sharp business practices and having little compassion for its competitors or employees.
I imagine lots of people who open coffee shops do it cos they like good coffee and meeting people, and have very little interest in running a large business
editor
hiraethified
Not me. I could retire tomorrow if I stuck adverts all over this site, and I've turned down tens of thousands of pounds of advertising over the years.
See? Not everyone is prepared to sell their arses to chase the big bucks.
PacificOcean
Unhinged User
Fair play to you.
I guess we all want different things in life - makes things more interesting.
And this site work - you couldn't just have several pages of posts saying "Yes, I agree with the OP"
grit
an ugly force for good
Why do you think they are mutually exclusive things?
I'm pretty sure Principles is a clothes shop.
