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Squire and Partners in Lambeth

It’s undeniable that there are two (or maybe more) Londons. The issue is what is symptom and what is cause.
 
The Department Store

Squires has won RIBA 2018 National and London Awards.

"This project took an unoccupied and dilapidated former department store from 1906, and reimagined the buildings to create a series of inspiring work and social spaces for a multi-disciplinary architecture and design practice. The brief included a series of units for new and existing local businesses, including a community Post Office, coffee roastery, vinyl record store, delicatessen and bar/restaurant.

A stunning building which has been brought back to life. Exceedingly exquisite and sensitive restoration, filled with beautiful material choice, attention to details and wonderful spaces.

The project honours the existing building's history by keeping graffiti from swatters, revealing original features and removing paint to original colours. All new items added to the building are highlighted in bronze, with an underlying colour scheme of new inserts of gold and black…."
 
The Department Store

Squires has won RIBA 2018 National and London Awards.

"This project took an unoccupied and dilapidated former department store from 1906, and reimagined the buildings to create a series of inspiring work and social spaces for a multi-disciplinary architecture and design practice. The brief included a series of units for new and existing local businesses, including a community Post Office, coffee roastery, vinyl record store, delicatessen and bar/restaurant.

A stunning building which has been brought back to life. Exceedingly exquisite and sensitive restoration, filled with beautiful material choice, attention to details and wonderful spaces.

The project honours the existing building's history by keeping graffiti from swatters, revealing original features and removing paint to original colours. All new items added to the building are highlighted in bronze, with an underlying colour scheme of new inserts of gold and black…."

Swatters ?
 
The Department Store

Squires has won RIBA 2018 National and London Awards.

"This project took an unoccupied and dilapidated former department store from 1906, and reimagined the buildings to create a series of inspiring work and social spaces for a multi-disciplinary architecture and design practice. The brief included a series of units for new and existing local businesses, including a community Post Office, coffee roastery, vinyl record store, delicatessen and bar/restaurant.

A stunning building which has been brought back to life. Exceedingly exquisite and sensitive restoration, filled with beautiful material choice, attention to details and wonderful spaces.

The project honours the existing building's history by keeping graffiti from swatters, revealing original features and removing paint to original colours. All new items added to the building are highlighted in bronze, with an underlying colour scheme of new inserts of gold and black…."

*sets deckchair*
 
"Exceedingly exquisite"

And, err...

"The project honours the existing building's history by keeping graffiti from swatters"

So kind and honourable of them there rich folks to acknowledge the poor people what lived there in the past, and so nice it adds that little bit of urban edge to their multi million pound showcase offices. I bet their super-rich clients getting their luxury mansions designed there appreciate it too. Keeps it real, man.
 
...and they’re off
What do you think about a company who make their millions designing super-luxury buildings for the super-rich showing off squat graffiti in their exclusive, private bar and roof terrace-equipped multi-million pound showcase offices? In an area where there is still real deprivation and poverty.

Any opinion on that, or does that take too much effort?
 
I think there is a big difference between keeping graffiti that was part of the building they moved into vs hiring someone to replicate graffiti. At least they are preserving the history of the building instead of painting it over.
 
I think there is a big difference between keeping graffiti that was part of the building they moved into vs hiring someone to replicate graffiti. At least they are preserving the history of the building instead of painting it over.
"Preserving" to what end? To show off to their rich clients and win swishy awards? "Here! Look what poor people did! Aren't we so connected with Brixton's vibrant and edgy past!"

Did they even ask the graffiti artists if they wanted their work to form a centrepiece of exceedingly exquisite luxury offices?

It's poverty porn.
 
"Preserving" to what end? To show off to their rich clients and win swishy awards? "Here! Look what poor people did! Aren't we so connected with Brixton's vibrant and edgy past!"

Did they even ask the graffiti artists if they wanted their work to form a centrepiece of exceedingly exquisite luxury offices?

It's poverty porn.

I'm not sure how they would track down the graffiti artists to ask them if they wanted their works used.

Would you rather it was painted over and destroyed?
 
What do you think about a company who make their millions designing super-luxury buildings for the super-rich showing off squat graffiti in their exclusive, private bar and roof terrace-equipped multi-million pound showcase offices? In an area where there is still real deprivation and poverty.

Any opinion on that, or does that take too much effort?
I don’t have a problem with it (sure I’ve said that before)
 
I'm not sure how they would track down the graffiti artists to ask them if they wanted their works used.

Would you rather it was painted over and destroyed?
They painted over everything else there that didn't suit their exceedingly exquisite vision, so it makes no odds. I'm pretty sure the original artists wouldn't have wanted their work employed as an edgy backdrop in a multi million pound showcase office, though.

If it was my work, I'd be well pissed off. It wasn't painted for the benefit of people designing luxury buildings.
 
Who are you or I to determine what the original graffiti artist would have wanted. It was in existence on the internal walls of a private building. When Squires bought the building the graffiti became their's to do with what they wish. They aren't ripping it out and selling it as artwork, or putting it on t-shirts for sale.
 
Who are you or I to determine what the original graffiti artist would have wanted. It was in existence on the internal walls of a private building. When Squires bought the building the graffiti became their's to do with what they wish. They aren't ripping it out and selling it as artwork, or putting it on t-shirts for sale.
If you're OK with with squatter's art being used - without permission - to help luxury, multi million offices scoop prestigious awards, that's fine. We can disagree. I think it's well fucking wanky though.
 
I guess we'll just have to disagree.. If it was in any context other than already being in-situ in a building that the architects had purchased I wouldn't be ok with it. For instance the recent H&M case
 
What do you think about a company who make their millions designing super-luxury buildings for the super-rich showing off squat graffiti in their exclusive, private bar and roof terrace-equipped multi-million pound showcase offices? In an area where there is still real deprivation and poverty?

There are parallels with the colonisers who stole and appropriated the art and creativity of indigineous people's while simultaneously laying waste to their culture
 
I think RIBA must have changed a lot over the years. Mr Owen Luder CBE, president from 1981-1983 and 1995-1997 contributed a couple of buildings to the Brixton area, though this is the most notable
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He is however more famous for this scenario
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I know the RIBA article is gushing, but I find the aesthetics of Squires efforts on the Department Store more harmonious than our local lad's office and car park developments.

I know Owen Luder was probably more concerned to throw up his concrete buildings as cheaply as possible, and no doubt did not expect them to last. And they haven't.

Squires have given a new lease of life to an Edwardian treasure - and I leave the politics to you lot!
 
I think RIBA must have changed a lot over the years. Mr Owen Luder CBE, president from 1981-1983 and 1995-1997 contributed a couple of buildings to the Brixton area, though this is the most notable
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He is however more famous for this scenario
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I know the RIBA article is gushing, but I find the aesthetics of Squires efforts on the Department Store more harmonious than our local lad's office and car park developments.

I know Owen Luder was probably more concerned to throw up his concrete buildings as cheaply as possible, and no doubt did not expect them to last. And they haven't.

Squires have given a new lease of life to an Edwardian treasure - and I leave the politics to you lot!
Fuck the politics, much prefer to focus on the aesthetics
 
I know the RIBA article is gushing, but I find the aesthetics of Squires efforts on the Department Store more harmonious than our local lad's office and car park developments.
Well of course a lavishly appointed Edwardian department store is going to be more pleasing than some cheaply built brutalist 70s car park!
Squires have given a new lease of life to an Edwardian treasure - and I leave the politics to you lot!
Well, they've given it a private, luxurious life. I can think of plenty of other uses I'd rather have seen for the building.
 
Do you plan on being a dick in every thread from now on? If you don't agree with his point, then make an intelligent counter-point.
I assumed he was being funny. Satirically taking the piss.

If not then you have have my heartfelt apology.
 
I think RIBA must have changed a lot over the years. Mr Owen Luder CBE, president from 1981-1983 and 1995-1997 contributed a couple of buildings to the Brixton area, though this is the most notable
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He is however more famous for this scenario
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I know the RIBA article is gushing, but I find the aesthetics of Squires efforts on the Department Store more harmonious than our local lad's office and car park developments.

I know Owen Luder was probably more concerned to throw up his concrete buildings as cheaply as possible, and no doubt did not expect them to last. And they haven't.

Squires have given a new lease of life to an Edwardian treasure - and I leave the politics to you lot!

I've always liked the 336 building even though it's not in a good state. The aircon doesn't help (are they still there?) and the accessible ramp needs a redesign
 
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