teuchter
je suis teuchter
Should probably have its own thread. In fact let me do that now.
Speeding and general dangerous driving in and around Brixton
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Should probably have its own thread. In fact let me do that now.
a_chap
When the world came apart, where were you?
Rushy
basically a scrotum
To be honest, I don't think £10 is either here nor there. People would report offenders if there was an easy process which they believed would be taken notice of. Also more credible if there is no financial incentive.
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That’s a PFI people here might support !
thebackrow
Considerably more Brixton.
isn't somewhere in the US doing this successfully?
teuchter
je suis teuchter
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teuchter
je suis teuchter
This is tomorrow by the way; I might go along
Winot
I wholeheartedley agree with your viewpoint
This is tomorrow by the way; I might go along
Laura Laker is very good.
just what the nhs needs
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Parking's a bit off
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Did you pop along?This is tomorrow by the way; I might go along
teuchter
je suis teuchter
It was sold out, when i went to book a ticket.
Winot
I wholeheartedley agree with your viewpoint
There have been a higher than usual number of motor vehicles going the wrong way down our one way street.
Interesting to come across this thread almost immediately after reading this article
Brixton Hill death: Man admits killing woman as he fled police
Pedestrian Anisha Vidal-Garner died when she was hit by a car in south London.
www.bbc.co.uk
teuchter
je suis teuchter
While Lambeth are telling people off for sunbathing, I've been watching a small number, but significant proportion of, drivers who seem to be taking the unusually clear streets as an invitation to speed around with abandon. Most of them are young men with expensive/fast cars and I don't believe they are attending emergencies. This afternoon I saw one talking on his mobile at the same time.
(When have I been observing this? Mainly whilst sitting in the evening sun on my doorstep, which due to the usual level of traffic is not normally all that appealing, but now it's quite a nice way of seeing that other people exist whilst not leaving the house, and it turns out that quite a lot of people smile and greet you when walking past, one of those things that comes out of making streets actually pleasant for people rather than cars...but anyway)
Some of these people speeding around at the moment are going to put themselves or someone else in an A&E department entirely unnecessarily. The twenty's plenty campaign are putting their weight behind a call to bring in a 20mph speed limit in all residential areas nationwide at least for the duration of this crisis, to reduce the burden on hospitals. I'm fully in support of it, unsurprisingly.
www.20splenty.org
(When have I been observing this? Mainly whilst sitting in the evening sun on my doorstep, which due to the usual level of traffic is not normally all that appealing, but now it's quite a nice way of seeing that other people exist whilst not leaving the house, and it turns out that quite a lot of people smile and greet you when walking past, one of those things that comes out of making streets actually pleasant for people rather than cars...but anyway)
Some of these people speeding around at the moment are going to put themselves or someone else in an A&E department entirely unnecessarily. The twenty's plenty campaign are putting their weight behind a call to bring in a 20mph speed limit in all residential areas nationwide at least for the duration of this crisis, to reduce the burden on hospitals. I'm fully in support of it, unsurprisingly.
We Support Emergency 20mph Limit to ‘Lower the Baseline’ NHS Load
We support those communities that want 20mph where people are
www.20splenty.org
sparkybird
ask the bird...
Yup, me too. I just can't believe these selfish fuckers who are putting not only themselves, but others and the NHS at risk. But of course they think they are safe drivers and there is no telling them otherwise, unless you want to get a mouthful of abuse
teuchter
je suis teuchter
Apparently there is some attempt to do something about the speeding currently going on.
road.cc
Police across UK launch three-week blitz on speeding drivers to keep cyclists and others safe
As lockdown restrictions ease, campaign aims to protect vulnerable road users
teuchter
je suis teuchter
Here we go again.
Interesting that the Coldharbour Police twitter says they "won't make judgement on cause" but then implies that TfL need to fix the road.
The cause is nearly always careless driving - road design is there to attempt to mitigate careless driving.
Speed limits are also there to mitigate careless driving, and it's the police who are supposed to enforce them. I know they say they are short of funding to do so.
Interesting that the Coldharbour Police twitter says they "won't make judgement on cause" but then implies that TfL need to fix the road.
The cause is nearly always careless driving - road design is there to attempt to mitigate careless driving.
Speed limits are also there to mitigate careless driving, and it's the police who are supposed to enforce them. I know they say they are short of funding to do so.
organicpanda
cat herder extraodinaire
as the two people hit by the car were probably on the road when the car hit them I can understand their reticence to comment on this particular case but they are not wrong to say that Coldharbour Lane and Gresham Road needs sorting, I am surprised no one has died in an accident yet, cars regularly accelerating up to 40 - 50 mph just on that one stretch, especially with the reduced traffic due to lockdown. is this road controlled by TFL or Lambeth? either way they have ignored the problems here for far too long
thebackrow
Considerably more Brixton.
That is an odd comment isn't it. It's a Lambeth Road anyway - TfL roads are shown on http://content.tfl.gov.uk/tfl-base-map-master.pdf
Gramsci
Well-Known Member
Its Lambeth. I found this out when trying to get a collapsed manhole cover fixed.
I had a long email exchange between Lambeth, TFL and myself.
I had emailed Lambeth first. They insisted it was TFL responsibiity.
TFL were helpful and took the trouble to explain to Lambeth CHL is Lambeth responsibility.
Why Lambeth were not aware I don't know.
I agree speeding is a problem on that stretch of road. Its supposed to be 20mph. Its not enforced.
Gramsci
Well-Known Member
It would be more helpful of police if the police accident investigators took a look at what happened and worked out why.
Saying to TFL ( its Lambeth road btw not TFL) that they ought to sort it out is meaningless.
Its also the police job to enforce speed limits. If they think this is such a dangerous road they should be out on it.
This is a straight stretch of road with clear sightlines. So I would like to know why this has happened twice on one spot.
organicpanda
cat herder extraodinaire
it's actually the third time in 4 years, 1st was New Years Eve, drunk driver lost control not much damage done. 2nd was 2 years ago, driver claimed he swerved to miss a dog at 2.30 in the morning, narrowly missed 4 pedestrians as it hit the wall, no insurance. 3rd was 2 weeks ago, driver hit 2 girls who were in the road before hitting the wall, one girl in hospital. All three cars were coming from Loughborough so had to cross the road to hit the wall, they were not turning left as has been said by councillors and police. the one factor that unites them all is they were all going too fast.
the only time you will ever see police on this bit of road is when you have 10 - 12 police spot checking cars, in 20+ years I have yet to see them stop a white driver. The Coldharbour councillors are full of concern and saying they will do something about it and then silence. this part of the road is in serious need of speed camera's/speed bumps/traffic calming measures before someone gets killed. We have a system of buck passing with no-one prepared to take responsibility.
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