South Norwood news and chat

[GarveyLives]

Thank you for drawing attention to these disturbing and outrageous attacks.

It appears that the same individual is for all of this series of attacks. One can only hope that the publicity given to these attacks in the media in the past 24 hours and on this forum assist in urgently identifying him and bringing him to justice.

Now that South Norwood Country Park has been reclaimed from a 17-year-old boy - who cannot be named - as a result of him being sentenced to a 12 month Youth Rehabilitation order as well as being the subject of a Sexual Harm Prevention Order for a period of 12 months, the requirements of which mean that he will not be able to go out in open spaces unaccompanied - following his conviction for three counts of sexual assault, two counts of theft and one count of robbery, let us hope that the Country Park can now be enjoyed in safety by all who wish to do so,

As the law requires him to remain anonymous, the only outstanding issue may be 'what happens in 12 months' time when he is free to return to the Country Park unaccompanied.

 

[GarveyLives]

A 26-year-old man who was arrested on suspicion of murdering 74-year-old grandmother, Eulin Hastings in South Norwood has been bailed by police.

The Late Eulin Hastings: A close friend of Ms Hastings, who wished to remain anonymous, said: "We knew her well. She was a lovely and will be missed immensely.

"She was a loving grandmother and It's such a shame to have lost her like this."​

The trial of Aaron Fyle, who is accused of murdering local resident Eulin Hastings in her own home, commences in Court 15 at the Central Criminal Court on Monday 9 December 2019.

 

[Guineveretoo]

If anybody fancies going to the London Mozart Players' Family Christmas Concert this evening (13 December) from 7pm, I have tickets available and we can no longer go.

We just want to recoup some of the money, so the tickets are cheap....

A Classic Christmas – London Mozart Players

 

[Maggot]

Stormzy takes Jay Rayner to his favourite cafe.

'It's a focus for the community': Stormzy takes Jay Rayner to his favourite cafe

 

[GarveyLives]

The trial of Aaron Fyle, who is accused of murdering local resident Eulin Hastings in her own home, commences in Court 15 at the Central Criminal Court on Monday 9 December 2019.

Now:

Man found guilty of murdering South Norwood retired nurse and setting her body alight

Ms Hastings' family said: "There is no waking from this nightmare it continues every waking moment it disturbs our sleep and disrupts our daily lives.

"Our mother was a pillar within the community spent her life helping others. She was loved by everyone who knew her.

"Mum worked as a midwife for over 30 years delivering 100’s of babies at St Thomas’s and St Georges Hospitals. Our Mother’s final moments will play on our minds and these thoughts will haunt us for the rest of our lives.

"Aaron Fyle you are a parasite who has preyed on vulnerable people who have worked hard for their possessions.

"We believe you to be an evil, monstrous individual who killed a defenceless elderly woman, our Mother. You destroyed our family home and all our Mothers treasured belongings and possessions.

"You, Aaron Fyle, have destroyed our lives, you have taken away our beautiful mother and Grandmothers precious life, leaving us with only her badly burnt body lying naked on the floor of her home.”

This disgusting piece of filth, Aaron Fyle, will be sentenced to life imprisonment at the Central Criminal Court on Friday 10 January 2020.​

 

[GarveyLives]

On 10 March 2018, a 14 year-old child who cannot be named was also charged with murder of Kelva Smith. He appeared at Croydon Magistrates’ Court earlier today and has been remanded in custody to appear at the Old Bailey on Wednesday 14 March 2018.

Together with Tyrone Farquharson, he is due to stand trial at the Old Bailey on 3 September 2018.

Anyone with information is requested to call police on the incident room on 0208 721 4961. You can also call Crimestoppers anonymously on 0800 555 111 or tweet police via @MetCC.​

Days after the second anniversary of the murder of Kelva Smith, condolences to the friends and family of the as yet unnamed child who was stabbed to death yesterday evening - apparently on a bus - in Whitehorse Lane.

 

[GarveyLives]

Days after the second anniversary of the murder of Kelva Smith, condolences to the friends and family of the as yet unnamed child who was stabbed to death yesterday evening - apparently on a bus - in Whitehorse Lane.

Police investigating the fatal stabbing of 16 year-old Damani Mauge from New Addington at about 8.30 p.m. on 8 March 2020, on a 130 bus near to the Clifton Road bus stop on Whitehorse Lane, have now charged another 16-year-old child - from Mitcham - with his murder.

The 16-year-old child has also been charged with two other offences, attempted robbery and possession of an offensive weapon in a public place.

According to Damani Mauge's family:

"Damani was a kind and loving older brother to his two siblings who both looked up to and loved him.

"He was a responsible young man who worked for a children's entertainment company. He was an easy going young man with many friends who loved and respected him for being funny, kind and supportive.

"Damani was a promising athlete who loved playing basketball and running. A keen sprinter, Damani raced for the Croydon Harriers and held a 100 - metre personal best of 11.7 seconds!

"He played a vital part of a gold medal winning relay team at the 2016 London Youth Games, Damani was the second fastest runner in the Croydon borough. Damani also competed and won at the Olympic Stadium as part of the Under 15 boy's 200m.

"Damani had such a bright and promising future ahead of him."

(Source: Metropolitan Police)

The Late Damani Mauge​

Anyone with information is asked to contact police on 101 or tweet @MetCC and quote CAD6512/8Mar.

To give information 100% anonymously contact independent charity Crimestoppers on 0800 555 111 or online at crimestoppers-uk.org.

 

[Miss-Shelf]

Croydon Food Resilience project launches today

The Food Resilience Project

A network of growers and foragers preparing and sharing local plants, seeds and food in Croydon and beyond.

www.foodresilience.co.uk

 

[Thenorthwood]

Under the disguise of covid the council have blocked key roads causing huge disruption for the people of South Norwood. When will this madness end it has served no purpose other than to block up South Norwood High Street , pollution levels are getting worse and cars and delivery lorries are speeding smaller roads trying to avoid the blocked roads. Council madness with no consultation with the local people. Also why are most of these restrictions in the North of the Borough is it just a Social experiment by Labour

 

[Guineveretoo]

Under the disguise of covid the council have blocked key roads causing huge disruption for the people of South Norwood. When will this madness end it has served no purpose other than to block up South Norwood High Street , pollution levels are getting worse and cars and delivery lorries are speeding smaller roads trying to avoid the blocked roads. Council madness with no consultation with the local people. Also why are most of these restrictions in the North of the Borough is it just a Social experiment by Labour

I am not sure they can be called "key roads". It is residential roads which were, initially anyway, closed to allow social distancing (allegedly) and to enable and encourage people to go out and exercise. They were not designed to reduce pollution as such at the time, although that has since been stated as an aim. The ones I thought oddest are the ones which block the 410 bus route and which forced the bus on to divert and directed traffic on to Cypress Road, which has a large primary school on it, and has been designated a "school street" because of pollution levels (oh - the irony...) so that several people trying to drive along Auckland Road have ended up with a fine by not seeing the tiny signs. They have now installed a bus gate, though, so the bus can still get through, but, after September, there will be fines issued to anyone inadvertently driving up Cypress Road because of the blockage.

I am really surprised at the lack of consultation on these closures - apparently this is not needed under emergency legislation to do with the pandemic, but it doesn't seem right when the closures appear to be permanent.

Many residents welcome the closures but i have seen so many complaining on social media about the lack of consultation and the fact that no consideration has been given to disabled people who live on those streets and rely on their cars....

The planters which were used to block the road, and which were bolted down, have been moved/stolen several times!

ETA it only causes disruption to those who use their cars. If it ends up with people finding different ways of getting around which don't involve cars, then that is going to be good. However, right now, a lot of people do not feel safe on public transport, so are using their cars more than usual.....

 

[GarveyLives]

Under the disguise of covid the council have blocked key roads causing huge disruption for the people of South Norwood. When will this madness end it has served no purpose other than to block up South Norwood High Street , pollution levels are getting worse and cars and delivery lorries are speeding smaller roads trying to avoid the blocked roads. Council madness with no consultation with the local people. Also why are most of these restrictions in the North of the Borough is it just a Social experiment by Labour

Please see also:

South Norwood’s road closures cause mile-long tailbacks

Pavements to be widened in South Norwood and Crystal Palace

It is unclear how many people have contracted the Covid-19 virus on account of insufficient space to walk on pavements in South Norwood (or elsewhere). Lambeth Council have introduced similar measures. For example, the pavement has been extended into one lane of the busy Streatham High Road outside Streatham Station, causing further traffic jams; few, if anyone, appear to find it necessary to walk in the the street there on account of insufficient space on the pavement.

 

[Guineveretoo]

I don't think anyone is saying that people have caught Covid-19 because there wasn't enough room on the pavements!

As an example, though, of the sort of reasons why these closures have happened.... during the full lockdown I was trying to walk around the streets near my house and there were, of course, lots of other people doing the same, and we were trying not to pass too closely to each other. Often, this required one of us to go in to the road, or even to cross over to the other side.

I am disabled and walk with a stick, and was also recovering from a broken ankle in the first few weeks of lockdown.

Because there were fewer cars on the roads, the ones that were there were driving way over the speed limit (because they could) and, frankly, dangerously fast.

The traffic was terrifying, as I was trying to cross over the road, or stepping in to the road to avoid fucking joggers who were panting up and down the pavements at speed without any care for others.

It was so bad that I was often just too scared to go out, as a consequence of which I didn't leave my house for weeks. And that was the traffic. If my road had been pedestrianised, I could easily have avoided those joggers and other pedestrians.

In fact, my road is not one of the ones which was closed by the Council, but I really wish it had been, back then. It would have made my life so much safer and easier and would have made exercising possible.

 

[GarveyLives]

I don't think anyone is saying that people have caught Covid-19 because there wasn't enough room on the pavements!

... no-one, that is, apart from the London Boroughs of Croydon and Lambeth (there may be others). That is precisely the pretext used for these measures.

Because there were fewer cars on the roads, the ones that were there were driving way over the speed limit (because they could) and, frankly, dangerously fast.

Sadly, this selfish and reckless behaviour appears to be increasingly prevalent, irrespective of the presence or otherwise of deadly respiratory viruses.

(Source: Jason Forde)

The Late Vasile-Florin Olteanu was killed after being hit by a BMW car as he crossed
Portland Road, South Norwood, at 7.30 a.m. on 14 April 2020.​

 

[Guineveretoo]

... no-one, that is, apart from the London Boroughs of Croydon and Lambeth (there may be others). That is precisely the pretext used for these measures.




Sadly, this selfish and reckless behaviour appears to be increasingly prevalent, irrespective of the presence or otherwise of deadly respiratory viruses.

(Source: Jason Forde)

The Late Vasile-Florin Olteanu was killed after being hit by a BMW car as he crossed
Portland Road, South Norwood, at 7.30 a.m. on 14 April 2020.​

I just can't bear the way all you ever do is quote news cuttings. Often pretty unreliable ones. You wind me up so much...

 

[Guineveretoo]

But I will bite (for now - off to work in a minute). Here is the official Croydon Council announcement about the road closures. I can't see where it says that people are catching covid-19 from crowded pavements.

Croydon Streetspace

www.croydon.gov.uk

And that person who was killed on Portland Road was right in the middle of the lockdown and when the virus was its deadly, so that statement doesn't make sense either.

But I am going away now, to work, and, when I get back later on, I probably just block you. This thread will be so much better without your tedious posts.

 

[ska invita]

Yeah it's annoying..a friend of mine is blocked in by three such road closures. I visit him by bike so doesn't effect me but he has to drive a massive circle to get anywhere inevitably creating traffic in Crystal Palace.

 

[Winot]

Yeah it's annoying..a friend of mine is blocked in by three such road closures. I visit him by bike so doesn't effect me but he has to drive a massive circle to get anywhere inevitably creating traffic in Crystal Palace.

That’s a feature not a bug. The idea is to make some car journeys inconvenient and to dissuade people from driving. The evidence of existing schemes is that overall traffic goes down.

 

[editor]

Save our libraries! Petition: Save South Norwood Library from permanent closure

 

[ATOMIC SUPLEX]

I reckon Croydon is going to lose them all. Bummer.

 

[hash tag]

Many libraries are being scaled back or privatised or closed

 

[GarveyLives]

Croydon Council have been exposed as acting as slum landlords in South Norwood (Warning: Some may find the scenes of the living conditions of the residents conerned distressing):

'The worst I've ever seen': The appalling and 'unliveable' council housing conditions some have endured during lockdown

(Source: as stated in image)

(Source: as stated in image)

"Leroy and Fransoy have spent over four months calling to ask for repairs to be made.
It took less than 24 hours for someone to be sent to look at their flats after ITV News contacted Croydon Council."​

 

[Guineveretoo]

There was a Council by-election in both South Norwood and Woodside on Thursday (and a few other wards) following the resignation of several Labour councillors. All kinds of people stood, including a couple of (former?) anarchists who stood as independent directly to undermine Labour, and several left-leaning people, and a Green candidate.

Anyway, I can find no record of it anywhere. It is not being reported. I know it is small fish, or whatever, but it is not to me, because I live here!

It is possibly not that significant, in that the Labour majority on the Council means they will not lose control even if they lose these wards, but I have always lived in a safe Labour ward, even when this used to be a Tory constituency, and I am fretting a bit.

I was told that it would be counted today, because the papers went in to the same boxes as the Mayor etc election so had to be taken to Olympia and then separated.

But I can find nothing about when it will be announced or how.

I daren't ask on the local South Norwood groups because they have become toxic, and I can't take the personal digs.

Does anyone on here know anything about this?

 

[hash tag]

Sorry guin, updated news is not easy to come by. Keep a check on local press, the standard etc.

CROYDON: Woodside by-election

There are seven candidates vying for your vote in the Woodside by-election tomorrow (May 7).

www.yourlocalguardian.co.uk

 

[Miss-Shelf]

I haven't seen the result yet on Croydon labour comms. Just seen the new addington councillor results were announced (labour)

 

[Miss-Shelf]

I will update this thread when other results are posted

 

[Guineveretoo]

I haven't seen the result yet on Croydon labour comms. Just seen the new addington councillor results were announced (labour)

I should probably have said that I am a member of the Labour Party, so I know that I will get an email at some point about this. I am looking for news before that.

 

[Guineveretoo]

I could probably have added that the by-election in Woodside was because the leader of the Council resigned directly because of Croydon going bankrupt. I know that will tarnish the Labour candidate, as it were.

Also, there have been some really good anti-Labour campaigns, with right wingers joining with supposed anarchists and save the library people as well as anti LTN (road blocks).

 

[Miss-Shelf]

Woodside elected labour councillor

 

[Guineveretoo]

Woodside elected labour councillor

Aha. I haven't seen that yet. Mike Bonello was elected? Do you have the figures?

 

[Guineveretoo]

The campaign against Luis Carserides in South Norwood was particularly pointed, including Tories haranguing the polling station queues. Which is not, technically, illegal if those queues go out on to the public road, which they did, but is certainly shitty. I know people who felt uncomfortable/intimidated by it all, and who was concerned at everyone giving the thumbs up to the Tory candidate and laughing at what he said. Mostly about the road closures.