Point about the AF meeting, i'm going to ask them for a copy of the discussion document, i'm hoping that the blurb was just poorly written, suggesting as it does that this might represent a new start point for the AF rather than just a debate, because even if there is significant section of the (new?) membership taking this seriously then the AF would be going backwards. I'm not convinced that they are, but will read the document. I'm coming round to nice one's point above from when the thread first started that this might be coming in off the back of new set of young anarchists who haven't seen the sort of class struggles that the older generation have and that formed their politics and so the new set concentrate on pointing their fingers inwards (iyswim).