Say hello to Barratt Homes' 'Brixton Square' on Coldharbour Lane (old Cooltan site)

[Gramsci]

Nope, and I never did. Which was why I found it curious that you felt the need to point it out twice that you were not part of a group that I never said you were part of.

Because you say the demographic is largely populated by people who went to all night parties in there youth. Which is why you think Cooltan is mentioned a lot here.

I am pointing out that I am not part of that demographic. And I am long time Brixton resident and poster on this section of Urban.

 

[Winot]

I didn't go to Cooltan either, although I don't post here as much as Gramsci. Where do I fit in eh?

#venn

 

[Rushy]

All this because one person tried to score a point from a new Brixton Square resident (although I have my doubts) by challenging them about, amongst other things, how much they knew and cared about the community arts collective their new home had allegedly replaced, perhaps not realising that said collective had been evicted some 15-16 yrs earlier.

 

[teuchter]

Because you say the demographic is largely populated by people who went to all night parties in there youth.

No I don't. Initially I said that urban75 was largely populated by a demographic who went to the cooltan parties. My revised statement says that urban75 is largely populated by a demographic who are aligned with the ideals that cooltan represented. Neither of these statements necessarily include you in the demographic described, except in a scenario where you and editor are the only members of U75, and I think we can safely say that is not the case.

 

[teuchter]

All this because one person tried to score a point from a new Brixton Square resident (although I have my doubts) by challenging them about, amongst other things, how much they knew and cared about the community arts collective their new home had allegedly replaced, perhaps not realising that said collective had been evicted some 15-16 yrs earlier.

Indeed.

 

[leanderman]

I think the Cooltan thing is a distraction, and tangential to the main and more important contention of Teuchter, which was:

'You just need to remember that Brixton through the lens of U75 does not necessarily represent the view of all or even most Brixton residents, long term or otherwise'

 

[editor]

No I don't. Initially I said that urban75 was largely populated by a demographic who went to the cooltan parties. My revised statement says that urban75 is largely populated by a demographic who are aligned with the ideals that cooltan represented.

And that's a load of bollocks too. Why do you keep bringing up something you know absolutely nothing about? Cooltan was many things to many people (rehearsal space, political centre, art studio, folk gig, techno gig, cafe, community space, meeting place, dance studio etc) and to try and make out there was some sort of unified 'ethos' that now resonates through urban75 today is utter rubbish.

Cooltan has been gone for way over a decade and barely anyone here even went there, let alone knows what it's supposed to represent.

I think the Cooltan thing is a distraction, and tangential to the main and more important contention of Teuchter, which was:

'You just need to remember that Brixton through the lens of U75 does not necessarily represent the view of all or even most Brixton residents, long term or otherwise'

I don't think anyone has ever claimed u75 to represent anything other than the opinions of the posters who comment here. Sometimes those opinions all agree, sometimes they don't. Sometimes they chime with a popular view in Brixton, sometimes they don't. They're just as valid as anyone else's though.

 

[teuchter]

And that's a load of bollocks too. Why do you keep bringing up something you know absolutely nothing about? Cooltan was many things to many people (rehearsal space, political centre, art studio, folk gig, techno gig, cafe, community space, meeting place, dance studio etc) and to try and make out there was some sort of unified 'ethos' that now resonates through urban75 today is utter rubbish.

Cooltan has been gone for way over a decade and barely anyone here even went there, let alone knows what it's supposed to represent.

Does your feature on cooltan misrepresent what it was all about, then?

I challenge anyone who knows u75 to read that and state that none of it resonates in some way with popular preoccupatons and topics of discussion on urban75, in particular the Brixton section.

"Barely anyone here even went there let alone knows what it's supposed to represent" and yet you chose to mention it in the title of this very thread. Hmm.

 

[el-ahrairah]

christ, even with him on ignore teuchter is fucking boring.

 

[editor]

Does your feature on cooltan misrepresent what it was all about, then?

I challenge anyone who knows u75 to read that and state that none of it resonates in some way with popular preoccupatons and topics of discussion on urban75, in particular the Brixton section.

"Barely anyone here even went there let alone knows what it's supposed to represent" and yet you chose to mention it in the title of this very thread. Hmm.

You're weird.

 

[equationgirl]

All this because one person tried to score a point from a new Brixton Square resident (although I have my doubts) by challenging them about, amongst other things, how much they knew and cared about the community arts collective their new home had allegedly replaced, perhaps not realising that said collective had been evicted some 15-16 yrs earlier.

I wasn't trying to point score.

 

[shifting gears]

christ, even with him on ignore teuchter is fucking boring.

You could die reading his endless, droning, self-important drivel.

Anyone know how to ignore on tapatalk? I'm already near self-harm.

 

[el-ahrairah]

i don't even know what tapatalk is, soz.

 

[shifting gears]

Phone forumz guv

 

[ViolentPanda]

You seem very keen to disassociate yourself with that demographic, gramsci .... why?

Oh look, another goalpost shift!

 

[ViolentPanda]

Baah,Cooltan,it was for a much longer time "the dole office".

Kind of gives away the age of those of us who remember it that way.

 

[ViolentPanda]

This will further fuel Brixton house prices (spread in today's Daily Mail). View attachment 33313

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/money/mo...se-Blackpool-sell-50-000--whats-going-on.html

"Often", "mostly" and "frequently", plus taking a property agent's word. The journo must have been having a lazy day, or perhaps the estate agent slipped them a sweetener.

 

[ViolentPanda]

H
How do they get to 100 buyers per house??!! bullshit statistics detector is going off

I suppose they might, for some properties, have a hundred enquiries, but I'm going to be cynical and sincerely doubt that it applies to every property, or even the majority of them.

 

[peterkro]

Kind of gives away the age of those of us who remember it that way.

Yes I'm afraid it very much does.

 

[ViolentPanda]

107 Apartment in Brixton Square sold out immediately upon release

After a multi-month build-up plus the usual deposit -taking etc."Sold out immediately" is relative. That is, relative to the continual publicity, the ads in the local and regional press etc etc, the open days for potential buyers...

It's not quite the same thing as the majority of "pre-owned" residential properties, which are also subject to chains.

 

[ViolentPanda]

I think the Cooltan thing is a distraction, and tangential to the main and more important contention of Teuchter, which was:

'You just need to remember that Brixton through the lens of U75 does not necessarily represent the view of all or even most Brixton residents, long term or otherwise'

Does one really need to remember something so patently obvious it should occur to anyone with half a functioning brain?

 

[indigolove]

I didn't go to Cooltan either, although I don't post here as much as Gramsci. Where do I fit in eh?

#venn

I think the Cooltan thing is a distraction, and tangential to the main and more important contention of Teuchter, which was:

'You just need to remember that Brixton through the lens of U75 does not necessarily represent the view of all or even most Brixton residents, long term or otherwise'

I lived my life in Cooltan and the Albert (and lets not forget Brady's and the Junction), but rarely write on U75 - how do you want to categorise me?

 

[shifting gears]

I lived my life in Cooltan and the Albert (and lets not forget Brady's and the Junction), but rarely write on U75 - how do you want to categorise me?

I would imagine as someone whose community perspective was severely tainted and skewed by having, at one point or another, been to the Cooltan.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Does your feature on cooltan misrepresent what it was all about, then?

I challenge anyone who knows u75 to read that and state that none of it resonates in some way with popular preoccupatons and topics of discussion on urban75, in particular the Brixton section.

"Barely anyone here even went there let alone knows what it's supposed to represent" and yet you chose to mention it in the title of this very thread. Hmm.

"Resonates in some way" is somewhat of a departure from your revised claim that "...urban75 is largely populated by a demographic who are aligned with the ideals that cooltan represented".

Would you like to re-revise your claim?

 

[teuchter]

No, I wouldn't. Would you like to comment on either?

 

[teuchter]

I would imagine as someone whose community perspective was severely tainted and skewed by having, at one point or another, been to the Cooltan.

Shall we discuss why you've chosen to use the words "skewed" and "tainted" here? (With a "severely" thrown in for good measure)

 

[editor]

"Resonates in some way" is somewhat of a departure from your revised claim that "...urban75 is largely populated by a demographic who are aligned with the ideals that cooltan represented".

Would you like to re-revise your claim?

At the speed he's backtracking and watering down his wholly untenable claim, it'll probably soon end up as, "urban75 is largely populated by a demographic ...who possibly inhaled the same air that once occupied the Cooltan building."

 

[Gramsci]

Baah,Cooltan,it was for a much longer time "the dole office".

Searched back for this. As ever ViolentPanda eagle eye alerted me to this.

I own up to being part of the demographic that used the dole office before those Cooltan people turned up.

 

[Gramsci]

At the speed he's backtracking and watering down his wholly untenable claim, it'll probably soon end up as, "urban75 is largely populated by a demographic ...who possibly inhaled the same air that once occupied the Cooltan building."

Should cover me then. Some of that must have wafted over.

 

[Gramsci]

I didn't go to Cooltan either, although I don't post here as much as Gramsci. Where do I fit in eh?

#venn

According to Teuchters revised statement u may be covered by this:

My revised statement says that urban75 is largely populated by a demographic who are aligned with the ideals that cooltan represented.

So an exhaustive search of the content of your posts by Teuchter will find if you are aligned with the ideas of cooltan even if you did not ever go there or were aware of its presence in Brixton until this thread.