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Robin Hood's tree now a stump (iconic tree at Hadrian's Wall)

I wish people would stop with this "century" business altogether whenever someone says "the 1400s" instead of "the 15th century" I have to stop and think "is that the 1400s or the 1600s? :confused:"
 
danny la rouge said:
I mean, I disagree. We called the first decade of the 20th Century the nineteen hundreds.

I know people lost the plot with the millenium and started saying two thousand, but they were wrong then and they’re wrong now.
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Twenty hundred and one: a space odyssey doesn't have the same ring to it :hmm:
 
Maybe that amount represents - or includes - the cost of clearing up after the vandalism.

I suppose you could estimate the £££ that visitors spend in the area, and assume a % of those will not visit this year because the tree isn't there - speculating here that fans of Kevin Costner / Robin Hood might be in this list.

I haven't yet noticed any difference.
The local micro-brewery has a product named after the gap / tree, and it was selling well during the last couple of visits I've made to their eponymous hostelry [Twice Brewed]
 
StoneRoad said:
Maybe that amount represents - or includes - the cost of clearing up after the vandalism.

I suppose you could estimate the £££ that visitors spend in the area, and assume a % of those will not visit this year because the tree isn't there - speculating here that fans of Kevin Costner / Robin Hood might be in this list.

I haven't yet noticed any difference.
The local micro-brewery has a product named after the gap / tree, and it was selling well during the last couple of visits I've made to their eponymous hostelry [Twice Brewed]
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You'd probably calculate this using frameworks related to ecosystem services. These basically allow you to put a monetary value on all the services the tree provides, from carbon absorption to biodiversity to recreation, tourism and cultural value.

This approach is often criticised for putting monetary values on stuff which is beyond simple finances, but does at least allow you to capture a wide range of values a tree or environment provides. Which is far more than the average person tends to think.
 
lazythursday said:
You'd probably calculate this using frameworks related to ecosystem services. These basically allow you to put a monetary value on all the services the tree provides, from carbon absorption to biodiversity to recreation, tourism and cultural value.

This approach is often criticised for putting monetary values on stuff which is beyond simple finances, but does at least allow you to capture a wide range of values a tree or environment provides. Which is far more than the average person tends to think.
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This is true, but I'm not sure that the ecological value of a single sycamore tree is that great, even one that's over 200 years old, given that sycamore is a non native species.


I would guess that it's been valued so highly because of its iconic status as a result of being, somewhat anachronistically, in a film about Robin Hood.
 
lazythursday said:
You'd probably calculate this using frameworks related to ecosystem services. These basically allow you to put a monetary value on all the services the tree provides, from carbon absorption to biodiversity to recreation, tourism and cultural value.

This approach is often criticised for putting monetary values on stuff which is beyond simple finances, but does at least allow you to capture a wide range of values a tree or environment provides. Which is far more than the average person tends to think.
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Shit. Sheffield council must be almost bankrupt with what they owe.
 

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bcuster said:
There must be consequences! Attacks by the wealthy on trees in US increasing: Attacks on their neighbor's trees, mind you!

apnews.com

Poisoned trees gave a wealthy couple in Maine a killer ocean view. Residents wonder, at what cost?

There was one thing missing when a wealthy Missouri couple purchased their oceanfront home overlooking Camden Harbor in Maine: The million-dollar view was blocked by a neighbor's trees.
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Munitions company CEO who cut down NJ neighbor's trees fined $13,000​



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I expect 13k is small change to a CEO of a munitions company though.
 
moochedit said:
I expect 13k is small change to a CEO of a munitions company though.
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Exactly my point. When that first happened, the headlines said he could be fined a million $ or more...,

In the Maine story, the privileged ones' efforts to poison their neighbor's trees caused a local eco-disaster...
 
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This was a 250 year-old beech tree in Pollock Park in Glasgow. I remember as a wee babby in the 70s being taken there to climb its weird trunk. I remember continuing to climb it all through adolescence. We named it "the gnarly oak" and it was a focal point in Pollock Gardens for generations of families.

Vandals burned it about 7 years ago and it's now gone.IMG_0076.jpg
 
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