RevolutionSound
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If they're unvaccinated cos they're anti vaxxers, this is the correct position.
RIP Steve Albini
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If they're unvaccinated cos they're anti vaxxers, this is the correct position.
krtek a houby
Sail hatin'
Admired his excellent production over the years, but the other stuff is difficult to forgive.
IIRC he did an interview where he said it was on the news and he was angry about the whole thing and is now sorry that he went hook line and sinker in on a hoax and it is something he can never take back. I think he brought it up rather than the interviewer. He also spent a lot of the interview talking about consent and how willing is not enough.
ska invita
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How good an engineer was he? Are the albums he was behind the desk at significantly different sounding from other recordings in the same genre? In Jamaican music you can tell if its a Lee Perry production or if Tubby was on the dub without having to ask, but was there a distinctive Steve sound?
Orang Utan
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I also remember reading that the child abuse conspiracy that he alludes to in the song turned out not to be true but part of the wave of ‘Satanic Panic’ moral panics in the USA in the 80s lthat resulted in many innocent people being convicted.
I'm guessing Albini would say no and that's the point. Lots of people go on about drums. He said if you want drums that sound like In Utero play like Dave Grohl.
It's an odd thing thinking you know a bit about someone, read interviews and that Azerrad book etc and yet there's a whole side that never came up. With Saville or whoever it was known in some circles but this was public yet for me it didn't come up until now.
Aye, that's what I was getting at but my brains not quite awake yet. He seemed genuinely remorseful about that.
danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
This link should come with a warning. I didn’t know the detail that was going to be in the article and although I didn’t continue it was still harrowing. I had no idea about that stuff.oh dear, not quite as redeemed a character as we may have thought:
There are some things you can’t row back on. Ugh.
Now That Steve Albini is Dead, Letâs Reflect on His Admitted Love (and Promotion) of Childâ¦
If you are reading this, then you probably have heard that the esteemed rock musician and producer Steve Albiniâââwho produced bands likeâ¦medium.com
I was always unable to listen to Rapeman because of the name. Now I’m going to be unable to listen to Shellac too, which I did used to like, although I hadn’t listened in a very long time.
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
well, I just got my copy of the new album and I am going to play it very loud very soon.
Toying with the child sex abuse rags is inexcusable, even if it was 'just' (as I said I suspect and see no reason to disbelieve) he was just doing it to shock. The Sotos stuff isn't simply straightforward child porn though (as far as I can tell, not having ever seen it), it's revolting and shocking, but thats its point. Showing the hypocrisy between mass media coverage of child abuse and the brutal reality of it. It certainly does sound like Sotos was way too 'fascinated' by dark and violent imagery of all kinds and took part in some incredibly dubious behaviour ( to say the least). But that is quite different to Albini himself genuinely 'loving child porn.'
Toying with the child sex abuse rags is inexcusable, even if it was 'just' (as I said I suspect and see no reason to disbelieve) he was just doing it to shock. The Sotos stuff isn't simply straightforward child porn though (as far as I can tell, not having ever seen it), it's revolting and shocking, but thats its point. Showing the hypocrisy between mass media coverage of child abuse and the brutal reality of it. It certainly does sound like Sotos was way too 'fascinated' by dark and violent imagery of all kinds and took part in some incredibly dubious behaviour ( to say the least). But that is quite different to Albini himself genuinely 'loving child porn.'
ska invita
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I get where you are coming from belboid, edgelord rockers being edgelords, but frankly fuck em,
Orang Utan
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Apologies, can’t edit my post now though
ska invita
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trigger warning is in the artuicle title tbfApologies, can’t edit my post now though
Steel Icarus
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And because it contains several words that might trigger our safeguarding systems at my college
Orang Utan
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this is why i don’t have wi-fi turned on when I’m at work.
Idris2002
cavalcade of hubris
When the "Rapeman" shite came up in the NME one week, one of my fellow scrotes in Castlebar said to me "that guy sounds like a fucking wanker".
Edgelordism - not even once.
danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
Sure, but it gets very graphic very quickly. It’s more than just about that topic. It’s very quickly horrifying.
andysays
Love and solidarity
Apologies, can’t edit my post now though
If you report the post, one of the moderators should be able to edit it.
Orang Utan
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Done
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
Primavera has just done so
Orang Utan
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Didn’t stop the John Peel stage being a thing
Yossarian
⏭️
Yeah, that's what I was thinking of - they changed the name last year and I don't think they'll want any similar controversies
beesonthewhatnow
going deaf for a living
He was very good indeed, albeit in a very specific mindset and way of working. Where he fell down in my view was his often incredibly dismissive/scornful attitude towards other methods of producing music. Maybe that was all part of the edgelord act as well though, who knows?
Spandex
A crazy bulbous punchbag of sound
Steve Albini said and wrote thousands of terrible things over the years as part of his I'm such a transgressive edgelord public persona. Racist, misogynistic, homophobic, generally rude and horrible. And yet I've never read anything from anyone who knew or worked with him suggesting he actually was racist, misogynistic, homophobic or horrible. Rude, certainly, but people who knew him don't seem to think that what he wrote back then actually reflected who he was. Yet these two articles in the Medium, which he wrote 40 years ago in his early 20s, have been taken out of that context, presented at face value and thrown at him now he's dead and can't respond.
They are horrific and I suspect Steve Albini would agree. When they first started circulating on the internet a few years ago, along with other nasty shit he wrote, it prompted him to post this thread on twitter:
Thread by @electricalWSOP on Thread Reader App
He followed up with interviews holding his hands up and expressing regret for some of the things he said, how he had contributed to coarsening society. It was quite widely reported at the time. krtek a houby posted one of the articles on page one of this thread.
Maybe there are some things you can't unsay. Being an edgelord is being a prick, something which Steve Albini seemed to realise later in his life. But the way it's been presented in the hit-piece on Medium to provoke such outrage that people are now refusing to listen to his music doesn't tell the whole story, and as such seems a little unfair.
They are horrific and I suspect Steve Albini would agree. When they first started circulating on the internet a few years ago, along with other nasty shit he wrote, it prompted him to post this thread on twitter:
Thread by @electricalWSOP on Thread Reader App
He followed up with interviews holding his hands up and expressing regret for some of the things he said, how he had contributed to coarsening society. It was quite widely reported at the time. krtek a houby posted one of the articles on page one of this thread.
Maybe there are some things you can't unsay. Being an edgelord is being a prick, something which Steve Albini seemed to realise later in his life. But the way it's been presented in the hit-piece on Medium to provoke such outrage that people are now refusing to listen to his music doesn't tell the whole story, and as such seems a little unfair.
ska invita
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Can you elaborate please?
