RIP Jimmy Carter

[Maggot]

Jimmy Carter has died aged 100. Not unexpected.

He was the first president I properly remember and seemed like a good man.

Obituary: Former US President Jimmy Carter

The US president struggled in the White House and served just one term, but later won a Nobel Peace prize.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[krtek a houby]

He was one of the better ones, but given the competition...

 

[dessiato]

Last of the decent ones? Perhaps. There's been some dross since him.

 

[Ax^]

before my time but a good man none the less and finally at peace with the missus after being ina hospice for well over a year

 

[nightowl]

Spent his remaining years working for world peace and building homes for the poor. Seemed like a decent man.

 

[blossie33]

Jimmy Carter seemed genuinely a more decent man than many of the other Presidents...

Obituary: Former US President Jimmy Carter

The US president struggled in the White House and served just one term, but later won a Nobel Peace prize.

www.bbc.co.uk

RIP

 

[A380]

Apparently when he was elected he was required to sell the peanut farm that had been in his family for generations in case it caused a conflict of interest if there were any presidential decsions impacting on the ground nut industry.

And now Trump.

America, they went to the moon, the fucking moon. And now they are reduced to this.

 

[The39thStep]

Carter was oddly enough pro-Palestinian, pretty much a rarity for a US President. However whilst in his later years he said the right things to the right audience and was bestowed the reputation of being a peacekeeper no one should forget his legacy in the Middle East. A truly disastrous foreign policy in arming Islamic fundamentalists in Afghanistan which resulted in the rise of Al-Qaeda, two decades of the US then fighting Al Queda and decades of civil war in Afghanistan.

 

[Ax^]

so as far as America president go he was still a good chap

 

[krtek a houby]

Carter was oddly enough pro-Palestinian, pretty much a rarity for a US President. However whilst in his later years he said the right things to the right audience and was bestowed the reputation of being a peacekeeper no one should forget his legacy in the Middle East. A truly disastrous foreign policy in arming Islamic fundamentalists in Afghanistan which resulted in the rise of Al-Qaeda, two decades of the US then fighting Al Queda and decades of civil war in Afghanistan.

Iirc, he was a negotiator for talks with the DPRK during the Clinton era, but his overstepping pissed off the administration?

 

[teqniq]

RIP.

 

[JimW]

But we know that democracy is always an unfinished creation. Each generation must renew its foundations. Each generation must rediscover the meaning of this hallowed vision in the light of its own modern challenges. For this generation, ours, life is nuclear survival; liberty is human rights; the pursuit of happiness is a planet whose resources are devoted to the physical and spiritual nourishment of its inhabitants. — Farewell Address, January 1981.

Notable quotes by Jimmy Carter

Former U.S. President Jimmy Carter has died at his home in Plains, Georgia. His death comes more than a year after the former president entered hospice care.

apnews.com

Should have issued that in all caps on Truth Social if he wanted to get the message across.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Carter was oddly enough pro-Palestinian, pretty much a rarity for a US President. However whilst in his later years he said the right things to the right audience and was bestowed the reputation of being a peacekeeper no one should forget his legacy in the Middle East. A truly disastrous foreign policy in arming Islamic fundamentalists in Afghanistan which resulted in the rise of Al-Qaeda, two decades of the US then fighting Al Queda and decades of civil war in Afghanistan.

Yes, and arming Latin American death squads. His adherence to democracy was selective.

 

[bcuster]

USS Jimmy Carter: The Most Secret Nuclear Powered Spy Submarine on Earth

During her time at sea, we don’t know where Jimmy Carter was or what her crew of nearly 150 were precisely doing.

nationalinterest.org

 

[teqniq]

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Why are we being offered a photo of a submarine with no explanation whatsoever?

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

I think it’s safe to say that to become POTUS you have to be a ruthless arsehole. But, given that framework, he seemed to be at the better end of them.

 

[weltweit]

150 people in that tiny submarine, I hope none were claustrophobic

 

[bcuster]

Why are we being offered a photo of a submarine with no explanation whatsoever?

Her name?

 

[teqniq]

Her name?

Ah you've edited it and put in a link, fair enough

 

[teqniq]

This, I think is worth reminding people of and of couse there are those who will not have known in the first place:

A Four-Decade Secret: One Man’s Story of Sabotaging Carter’s Re-election (Published 2023)

A prominent Texas politician said he unwittingly took part in a 1980 tour of the Middle East with a clandestine agenda.

www.nytimes.com

Archived version in case the unlocked NYT link does not work for you:

A Clandestine Trip and a Four-Decade Secret: An Untold Story Behind Jimmy Carter’s Defeat

 

[nightowl]

I suppose there's one good thing. He died just early enough that Trump won't have a leading role in the funeral (hopefully) and make it all about him.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

This, I think is worth reminding people of and of couse there are those who will not have known in the first place:

A Four-Decade Secret: One Man’s Story of Sabotaging Carter’s Re-election (Published 2023)

A prominent Texas politician said he unwittingly took part in a 1980 tour of the Middle East with a clandestine agenda.

www.nytimes.com

Archived version in case the unlocked NYT link does not work for you:

A Clandestine Trip and a Four-Decade Secret: An Untold Story Behind Jimmy Carter’s Defeat

Treason, essentially. At least two US presidents have been elected after acts of treason. Nixon as well, sabotaging Vietnam peace talks in 68.

 

[Wilf]

Him and Jim Callaghan pretty much victims of the post war boom coming to an end. Also, left the stage before 'crisis measures' tipped over into ideological neo liberalism. Foreign policy disasters already touched on.

It's maybe a bit of me softening, more the times we live in, that I'm thinking 'yeah, but at least he wasn't a dishonest rapist/racist'.

 

[The39thStep]

Yes, and arming Latin American death squads. His adherence to democracy was selective.

Good chap/ bad chap.

 

[Larry O'Hara]

This, I think is worth reminding people of and of couse there are those who will not have known in the first place:

A Four-Decade Secret: One Man’s Story of Sabotaging Carter’s Re-election (Published 2023)

A prominent Texas politician said he unwittingly took part in a 1980 tour of the Middle East with a clandestine agenda.

www.nytimes.com

Archived version in case the unlocked NYT link does not work for you:

A Clandestine Trip and a Four-Decade Secret: An Untold Story Behind Jimmy Carter’s Defeat

Ah yes: the Gary Sick book on October surprise is a classic

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

He picked the right time to exit. He won't have to see what Trump will do to the country and his legacy. It really seems sometimes like the Republicans end programs that help regular people just because a Democratic President supported the bill.

 

[PTK]

The Jimmy Carter regime was responsible for encouraging the growth of a violent form of a far-right movement that has caused huge suffering in the world: Islamism.

A military coup in Afghanistan in April 1978 established a left-wing regime that was committed to implementing reforms that had been implemented in other countries as feudalist systems were overthrown. There was land reform, and women were given rights The landlords and the moneylenders and the imams were unhappy about these reforms and launched an armed rebellion. The new regime was allied to the USSR, with which Afghan state had long had friendly relations.

The Carter regime decided to give support to these rebels, with a view to provoking the USSR to intervene to prevent the establishment of a potentially hostile regime on its borders. This would be a drain on the USSR, both economically and militarily, which would be to the advantage of the interests of US imperialism.​

Sure enough, the USSR sent troops into Afghanistan to bolster the Afghan army in December 1979.

Then the Carter regime gave even more aid to the Islamist rebels in Afghanistan.

The war in Afghanistan became a cause célèbre of Islamism, and the USA encouraged the governments of predominantly Muslim country to free Islamist dissidents and allow them to travel to Afghanistan to “fight the Godless communists”. This led to the birth of Al Qaeda.

Thus the Carter regime helped set the world on a road that led to the civil war in Algeria, the destruction of the Twin Towers, the enslavement of Yazidi women, and all the other horrors inflicted in the past forty-six years by violent Islamism.​

 

[PTK]

Yes, and arming Latin American death squads. His adherence to democracy was selective.

I seem to remember that Carter did withdraw some support for military dictatorships in Latin America, and that the State of Israel stepped in to provide the support. I think this was more in terms of training.
I also think that death squads were formed in response to Carter's policies. Rather than the military regimes doing the killings, supposedly independant death squads did the dirty work, so it could be denied that the USA was arming regimes that were mudering opponents.

 

[weltweit]

Jimmy Carter speaks frankly about Palestine
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[vinba]

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Jimmy Carter speaks frankly about Palestine
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I remember this and the Apartheid Defence Leage called him an antisemite..