RIP David Bowie

[Guineveretoo]

Now you are having a go at me because of my dyslexia. Tell me what is your problem with people with disabilities?

If you are going to make comments like "you have no idea what {insert word} means" you shouldn't be surprised at being called out if you spell them wrongly, dyslexia notwithstanding.

And suggesting that editor has got a problem with "people with disabilities" is just childish.

Besides, if you want to get into it, people in the know like to use the social model of disabled people, and not the medical model, and to refer to them as "disabled people" rather than focussing on their disabilities.

 

[emanymton]

People with disabilities don't get to be bellends unchallenged.

OK so
A) being concerned about the rape of 13 year old girls makes someone a bellend.
And
B) It is OK to make fun of people's disabilities if they are being a bellend.
Really, Wow.

 

[Pickman's model]

If you are going to make comments like "you have no idea what {insert word} means" you shouldn't be surprised at being called out if you spell them wrongly, dyslexia notwithstanding.

And suggesting that editor has got a problem with "people with disabilities" is just childish.

Besides, if you want to get into it, people in the know like to use the social model of disabled people, and not the medical model, and to refer to them as "disabled people" rather than focussing on their disabilities.

i thought the worse emanymton could have been accused of was spelling like an american, if you were going to bring the spelling up at all.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

fuck shit.

An amazingly rich legacy.

Thanks David.

 

[emanymton]

If you are going to make comments like "you have no idea what {insert word} means" you shouldn't be surprised at being called out if you spell them wrongly, dyslexia notwithstanding.

And suggesting that editor has got a problem with "people with disabilities" is just childish.

Besides, if you want to get into it, people in the know like to use the social model of disabled people, and not the medical model, and to refer to them as "disabled people" rather than focussing on their disabilities.

So I am not allowed to chose how I define myself, and should just brush it of instead of focusing on my disability?

 

[Lord Camomile]

Possibly a futile attempt: if you hit +Quote instead of Reply you can add the quoted post to the 'debate thread', so to speak, and comment there. While I'm not on the side of those condemning LiamO for his posts, I do think for now at least the debate and any resulting beef should be left off this thread.

For what it's worth, as I said on the other thread Bowie didn't have the same impact on me as he clearly did on others, but I did like a lot of his music, he seemed like an interesting guy in a world populated largely with far less interesting ones, and his cultural impact is pretty inarguable. I was shocked by the news and feel for those it has hurt this morning.

Also, I really like his son's work, which bizarrely seems worth mentioning.

 

[billy_bob]

OK so
A) being concerned about the rape of 13 year old girls makes someone a bellend.
And
B) It is OK to make fun of people's disabilities if they are being a bellend.
Really, Wow.

I said neither of those things and I'm not going to respond to your suggestion that I did. There's a thread for this now. Piss off over there.

 

[krtek a houby]

So I am not allowed to chose how I define myself, and should just brush it of instead of focusing on my disability?

Do you think the editor actually knew you were dyslexic when he replied to your post? I had no idea. And is this thread not supposed to be about Bowie?

 

[emanymton]

i thought the worse emanymton could have been accused of was spelling like an american, if you were going to bring the spelling up at all.

Oh shit really?

 

[emanymton]

Do you think the editor actually knew you were dyslexic when he replied to your post? I had no idea. And is this thread not supposed to be about Bowie?

Well he posted on my thread about it.

 

[Guineveretoo]

So I am not allowed to chose how I define myself, and should just brush it of instead of focusing on my disability?

I guessed you would pick up on that bit, which was really just me showing you what it is like. You were being snotty to someone because you thought they know what the word offence meant, then you were snotty to someone else who pointed out that you didn't know to spell it, then you used an outdated term which a lot of disabled people find offensive because it uses the medical model rather than realising that the issue is not their disability, but society's failure to deal with people who are "differently able".

*shrug* Whatever.

I just felt you were being childish to attack editor and accuse him of disablism or something.

 

[Pickman's model]

Oh shit really?

yeh they use -se instead of -ce, so 'defense', 'offense'

 

[emanymton]

I said neither of those things and I'm not going to respond to your suggestion that I did. There's a thread for this now. Piss off over there.

A) may be a bit of a stretch, but I thought B) was quite clear. Would you care to explain what you did mean?

 

[StoneRoad]

Woke up to "life on Mars" on ClassicFM this morning.

RIP to probably the leading innovator - more than once - in British pop / contemporary music.
At 69 and from cancer - way too young.

e2a - please take these various beefs off an RIP thread.
as me old ma used to say "If you can't say nice things, keep quiet" as other people are grieving.

 

[emanymton]

I guessed you would pick up on that bit, which was really just me showing you what it is like. You were being snotty to someone because you thought they know what the word offence meant, then you were snotty to someone else who pointed out that you didn't know to spell it, then you used an outdated term which a lot of disabled people find offensive because it uses the medical model rather than realising that the issue is not their disability, but society's failure to deal with people who are "differently able".

*shrug* Whatever.

I just felt you were being childish to attack editor and accuse him of disablism or something.

Of course I didn't literally think he didn't know what it meant, I was highlighted he has used it inappropriately. And I picked up on it because not too long ago I stated a thread on this very issue that he posted on.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

RIP to probably the leading innovator - more than once - in British pop / contemporary music.

This makes him unique, I think. If he'd died in 1972, his legacy would have been assured. Five amazingly different and innovative albums. Then less than ten years later, he had another body of very different work that could stand as a legacy on its own. His 80s stuff gave him a new audience (not my taste, but pleasure for many others nonetheless). And then, in his 60s, he kept coming back again and again. Apt that he should mark his own death with the release of an album. Will be listening to it tonight.

 

[butchersapron]

Tell you what, it's a very different experience listening to the new album for the second time today. First listen last night i found myself thinking cheer up mate, you've done all right. Things a lot clearer today.

 

[editor]

We're putting on a free Bowie tribute night in the Brixton Albert tonight if anyone fancies joining us.
Monday 11th January 2016, David Bowie party night at Offline Club, Prince Albert, 418 Coldharbour Lane, Brixton, London SW9, with DJs playing ska, d'n'b, electro, indie, punk, rock'n'roll, big band, rockabilly and skiffle

 

[editor]

Tell you what, it's a very different experience listening to the new album for the second time today. First listen last night i found myself thinking cheer up mate, you've done all right. Things a lot clearer today.

It's so rare for an artist his age - and one who burned so brightly when he was young - to still be producing notable, challenging and interesting music. We'll never see his like again.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

It's so rare for an artist his age - and one who burned so brightly when he was young - to still be producing notable, challenging and interesting music. We'll never see his like again.

We've lost two, I think, in the last couple of years. Him and Lou Reed.

 

[skyscraper101]

We've lost two, I think, in the last couple of years. Him and Lou Reed.

I dunno that collaboration with Metallica thing was awful.

 

[editor]

We've lost two, I think, in the last couple of years. Him and Lou Reed.

Not sure I'd put Reed's last works up there with Bowie's, but I take your point.

 

[killer b]

I dunno that collaboration with Metallica thing was awful.

It was great. Best thing either of them have done in years.

 

[TopCat]

You've made your point. Repeatedly, despite the fact that people are grieving and you said ages ago that you were going to start a new thread. So do that (if you must) and shut the fuck up here please.

One more post from you in this thread and you're banned. What a nasty person you are.

Back to the bad old days/ways eh?

 

[D'wards]

Jesus, every sodding thread on this site descends into squabbling. There are just too many negative-vibe merchants about

 

[skyscraper101]

T'was ever thus.

 

[Kid_Eternity]

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[Kid_Eternity]

Tell you what, it's a very different experience listening to the new album for the second time today. First listen last night i found myself thinking cheer up mate, you've done all right. Things a lot clearer today.

This.

 

[krtek a houby]

Jesus, every sodding thread on this site descends into squabbling. There are just too many negative-vibe merchants about

We've got five years, that's all we've got

 

[Ms Ordinary]

Radio 6 on at work - just remembered that Young Americans had me in absolute pieces when it popped up at the end of Dogville with the Dorothea Lange photos