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RIP Liam Payne (One Direction)

RIP Liam.

Very sad. Due to 1D obsessed daughter, I ended up seeing them a few times. I think he had some addiction issues while the band was till going; booze definitely but also 'epilepsy drugs' which I guess could be anything from gabapentin to clonazepam; none of which are the most healthy to abuse.

Me & Lil'FA used to howl along to all their tunes in the car; this was a favourite (and one of the tunes Liam had a hand in writing):

 
God knows was going on when he died but it sounded like he was not in a good way. Transcript of the call from the hotel to the emegency services below, and here. (translated from Spanish)

Hotel manager: "Good morning. I'm calling from Hotel Casa Sur Palermo, Costa Rica 6032."

Call handler: "What is happening sir?"

Hotel manager: "We have a guest drunk with drugs and alcohol. When he [them, gender not clear in conversation] is conscious he is breaking everything in the room."

Call handler: "You said alcohol and drugs..."

Hotel manager: "This is correct."

Call handler: "You said Costa Rica intersecting where?"

Hotel manager: "Costa Rica 6032."

Call handler: "Repeat."

Hotel manager: "Costa Rica 6032."

Call handler: "How is the hotel called?"

Hotel manager: "Caza Azul Palermo. We need to send someone with urgency because I don't know if the guest's life is in danger because he is in a room with balcony, and we are afraid he could do something that threatens life."

Call handler: "How long has he been there? Is it a long stay hotel?"

Hotel manager: "[The guest] has been for the past three days."

Call handler: "You don't any other information because you can't get in. Right?"

Hotel manager: "No."

Call handler: "We are also notifying SAME [Medical Emergency Attention Service]."

Hotel manager: "We are asking to send someone with urgency because..."

Call handler: "We are doing that. Any other data to give me. Who are you?"

Hotel manager: "I'm the desk manager."

Call handler: "Person in charge of the place."

Hotel manager: "Yes."

Call handler: "It has been notified. What is your name, sir?"

Hotel manager: "Esteban."

Call handler: "Thanks for calling. Be online."

Hotel manager: "Are you sending police too."

Call handler: "Police from the delegation... Let me confirm."

Hotel manager: "No, no, only SAME, only SAME [Medical Emergency Attention Service]."

Call handler: "Don't worry because they have already been notified."

Hotel manager: "Because as you said he is under the influence of alcohol and drugs, SAME personnel can't enter alone."

Call handler: "You can ask that to the police, but if SAME needs them, they will notify you."

Hotel manager: "Good, OK, perfect."

Call handler: "Have a good day."

Hotel manager: "Thanks, you too."
 
I can’t confirm this as I didn’t research it. However, a coworker of mine told me today how gutted she is as “the band’s music raised” her. That all she has done in her 22 years has moments that the music helped her with life. This next bit is what I can’t confirm. She said the band was due for a reunion of sorts and the unfortunate part is now the band will get back together for a funeral.

I can understand the remark about ANY band getting back together for someone’s funeral, but I don’t know about any type of planned reunion.

My thoughts about the transcript of the emergency phone call - glad it was called in but maybe they couldn’t release a name or gender because he still needed a form of anonymity? Until family or managers give the okay or confirmation it was him, the hotel couldn’t make comments? But it does sound like he was doing no good due to some form of intoxication. It’s really too bad it ended with his death. I wish whatever was going on, someone could have helped. Maybe they did, we don’t know. Like I said previously, I hope maybe parents can use this as a teaching lesson for their children. Keep communication open.

With his child, I hope there’s enough videos of personal time between them that memories can remain. The family keeps the positives of Liam alive.
 
editor said:
Just 31. That's crazy young. Very sad.
I can't even begin to imagine the pressures of being super famous and then not so super famous and being surrounded by all the arseholes that fame and money attract.
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There's a tik tok out there of him allegedly an hour before the incident. He's drinking coffee and calm as a summer's afternoon
 
bcuster said:
There's a tik tok out there of him allegedly an hour before the incident. He's drinking coffee and calm as a summer's afternoon
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Pre-loaded vids, scheduled for upload.

Apparently his gf featured in them and was known to be back in the US when he died.
 
So apparently he was so fucked out of his head he was choking a young lady in the lift while giving it the whole 'don't you know who I am'?

He was dropped by Universal a couple of days earlier. And then his PR. The quote below is from one of the last people to see him alive, it's from the Mail and the Sun so won't link.

'I came into the hotel, and he was waiting by the elevator, and it was so clear he wanted someone to recognise him, there was something a bit desperate about him.

'I was with my friends and we did know who he was, but none of us were that bothered.

'When the lift came he suddenly said to us without any prompting: 'Yes, I'm Liam!' really drawing it out, and then said 'All right come on you lot, get in the elevator with me, I love a cuddle'.

'I decided against it and waited for the next one, but some of the other girls got in with him and half way up, he started saying 'Oh, you're Americans, I live in West Palm Beach.
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Another witness says he came back to the hotel lobby after that and saw an email that upset him

Then he opened his emails and saw one which obviously upset him. Suddenly he took the computer, shouted 'f*** this s*** mate!' and started bashing the computer on the ground.
"Everyone, especially the staff was really shocked. It's a high-end hotel and his behaviour was so out of place - people were just chilling."
Concerned, Rebecca went to check on the singer. She said: "I went over, asked 'Are you OK?' But he just kind of grunted. Then he said 'I used to be in a boyband. That's why I'm so f***** up.'
"I couldn't believe he'd just come out and said something like that. There was a lot more swearing and he took the laptop over and went to get back in the lift."

nz.news.yahoo.com

'Desperate' Liam Payne shocked hotel guests in the hour before his death

Liam Payne claimed he was "f***** up" because he "used to be in a boyband" just minutes before he died. The 31-year-old singer died shortly after 5pm on Wednesday (16.10.24) when he fell from the balcony of his hotel room in Buenos Aires and not long before then, he was apparently looking for...
nz.news.yahoo.com nz.news.yahoo.com
 
So a massive tantrum about losing his fame gone wrong. The pics on the mail of his hotel room look like he was maybe on smack or crack?
 
Petcha said:
So a massive tantrum about losing his fame gone wrong.
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:facepalm:

I think it was probably more the case he was having a mental health episode brought on or enhanced by drink and/or drugs and exacerbated by bad personal and work news. another young person used and abused by the music and celebrity industry, then discarded without a care when he stopped being profitable enough.
 
pbsmooth said:
:facepalm:

I think it was probably more the case he was having a mental health episode brought on or enhanced by drink and/or drugs and exacerbated by bad personal and work news. another young person used and abused by the music and celebrity industry, then discarded without a care when he stopped being profitable enough.
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Or another way to look at it, an entitled very rich young man assaults a woman, destroys his hotel room and staggers off his balcony while totally fucked up after getting told his career was over. But he still had millions in the bank.. so.
 
Petcha said:
Or another way to look at it, an entitled very rich young man assaults a woman, destroys his hotel room and staggers off his balcony while totally fucked up after getting told his career was over. But he still had millions in the bank.. so.
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Money can't buy peace of mind, nor can "fame". The poor lad was doomed...
 
Not even checking out at midday, as most of us (if we're lucky( instead sitting with your feet up shouting at your laptop in reception with the audio on so people could hear while the guests who had booked your room are waiting for the room to be cleaned. At 4.30pm. Then destroying said room, oh and in an even classier move trying to pull said guests on your way up in the lift telling them who he is, who apparently couldn't give his a toss which must have further pissed him off... I guess he did check out in the end.

He does sound like a classy bloke.

I don't think he sounds like he was mentally ill. Just a bit of a dick.
 
ouirdeaux said:
Both can be true, of course.
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Well, quite. I'm a case in point there in some ways, definitely the dick part, the jury's out on the mentally ill bit. Although I'm not fond of choking girls in elevators because I've just been sacked.

I think he probably could qualify for a Darwin award really, looking at the distance he actually fell. He must have really launched himself to die from there and not just break a few limbs.


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Petcha said:
Well, quite. I'm a case in point there in some ways, definitely the dick part, the jury's out on the mentally ill bit. Although I'm not fond of choking girls in elevators because I've just been sacked.

I think he probably could qualify for a Darwin award really, looking at the distance he actually fell. He must have really launched himself to die from there and not just break a few limbs.


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Not sure you know what a Darwin award is.
Or compassion
 
Petcha there’s lots of questions about what happened and there’s been lots of concerns about his behaviour and actions in recent times and that will be talked about and picked over endlessly.

There’s also a huge amount of rumour and speculation that might not actually be true.

For now, can you stop being a cunt about it and accept there’s a young man who has clearly experienced real struggles and incredible pain and there’s now a family including a little kid who doesn’t have their dad.

Much like Caroline Flack, we have someone here who has been under massive scrutiny very recently and it might be that he’s deliberately ended his life in part as a result of this backlash.
 
Petcha said:
a fucking entitled dickhead.
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no doubt, and lots more besides probably - a very imperfect human. if he turns out to be a truly bad person, then knock yourself out. otherwise so far there's too much noise to really know atm. I'm glad for you if you've never been fucked and fucked up. we can all be terrible people and do shitty things. particularly if trauma, booze, drugs are involved. either way your posts earlier are over the top.
 
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