Research respondents needed from Brighton- nightlife/lapdance survey

[editor]

The same FAQ busting post was slammed up in two forums. That makes it spam.

 

[bi0boy]

You've dissed the project repeatedly without one offering a reason for it. You implied she was a lazy studente. You also said that every survey ever posted on urban is severely deficient.

This is why I've been called you a presumptuous dickhead for the last 20 minutes. Does that make more sense now?

You're the one waving your willy around

 

[nosos]

It says read the forums before posting anything. The complete absence of similar threads should make it apparent that this is not a place to post up a cheap trawl for info.

But it's not a 'cheap trawl for info'. Yes, she should be read the forums and contributed before posting. But the disclaimer about surveys made no mention of applying to her. If you want to make it obvious that academic researchers shouldn't post requests for research participants then YOU NEED TO SAY IT. Because otherwise it won't be obvious.

 

[Corax]

er, yeah, kind of - the last time i was a regular poster here it didn't seem like the place was filled with such a high portion of dickheads

Your memory's playing tricks on you.

like you, good sir, who unless my memory fails me i used to send stuff to you in the post years ago

IIRC we talked about it but it never happened in the end.

I think I came round your gaff at the end of some evening or other once though. Was it through a train station?

 

[nosos]

You're the one waving your willy around

How so?

 

[editor]

But it's not a 'cheap trawl for info'. Yes, she should be read the forums and contributed before posting. But the disclaimer about surveys made no mention of applying to her. If you want to make it obvious that academic researchers shouldn't post requests for research participants then YOU NEED TO SAY IT. Because otherwise it won't be obvious.

No I don't because I'm not going to list every possible scenario. The FAQ and the content of the boards make it obvious that research posts across multiple forums is not acceptable.

 

[nosos]

Your memory's playing tricks on you.


IIRC we talked about it but it never happened in the end.

I think I came round your gaff at the end of some evening or other once though. Was it through a train station?

It was. Memories from that of my life are somewhat Fuzzy

 

[lizzieloo]

Please don't imply I'm being prissy, a friend came to post on here with good intentions and got a really unpleasant reaction. I do think that's a problem with the disclaimer as stands. How about add "/ academic researchers /" in as well to make clear that applies? I honestly don't think it's obvious that it does unless you, well, actually say it.

What a load of bollocks. You MUST be able to see the problem here.

You're just feeling like a dick for suggesting she post it here, whatever research anyone I knew for whatever reason was doing the following would be my advice...........

Don't, whatever you do go to urban75 and ask for help with research (especially as the first thing you say), they'll just rip the piss out of you.

Everyone here knows that.

 

[nosos]

No I don't because I'm not going to list every possible scenario.

Yeah because the only options are to make one addition (which this threads proves is needed) or 'include every scenario'

 

[nosos]

What a load of bollocks. You MUST be able to see the problem here.

You're just feeling like a dick for suggesting she post it here, whatever research anyone I knew for whatever reason was doing the following would be my advice...........

Don't, whatever you do go to urban75 and ask for help with research (especially as the first thing you say), they'll just rip the piss out of you.

Everyone here knows that.

Er, I didn't suggest she posted it here. I suggested she looked for flat shares here, which is when I found the other thread.

 

[Corax]

It was. Memories from that of my life are somewhat Fuzzy

Yep, equally so. Thanks for your hospitality though!

 

[stuff_it]

Yeah because the only options are to make one addition (which this threads proves is needed) or 'include every scenario'

Um, dunno - maybe you should have told her to ask first and miss out the spammy stuff, just for in here y'know.

 

[lizzieloo]

Yeah because the only options are to make one addition (which this threads proves is needed) or 'include every scenario'

This thread proves the exact opposite. You and the OP are the only people here that don't get it, and the OP couldn't have known any better.

 

[nosos]

Yes my point being the disclaimer doesn't list academic researchers & therefore academic researchers might not realise that they are not welcome. Hence good idea to add one more sentence to solve the problem?

 

[lizzieloo]

Yes my point being the disclaimer doesn't list academic researchers & therefore academic researchers might not realise that they are not welcome. Hence good idea to add one more sentence to solve the problem?

What about supermarket managers?

 

[nosos]

EH?

 

[lizzieloo]

Well they might want to start a thread here, to research shopping habits.

If they're not mentioned how would they know it was frowned upon?

 

[nosos]

market researchers are already covered the disclaimer. If you don't include academic researchers specifically, they won't recognise that they're excluded. therefore they still post and get chased about the braying mob by that by this point constitutes a community in these parts. add two words to disclaimer easy solved.

 

[Corax]

She is quite hot though, so maybe we should help.

 

[nosos]

Well they might want to start a thread here, to research shopping habits.

If they're not mentioned how would they know it was frowned upon?

because the market researcher they paid to do it would recognise the disclaimer said they weren't welcome...

 

[lizzieloo]

because the market researcher they paid to do it would recognise the disclaimer said they weren't welcome...

See my point though? Christ.

 

[nosos]

No I clearly don't

 

[nosos]

Is it the list of potential topics people might want to study is long that you can't include them all in the disclaimer?

 

[lizzieloo]

This is like swimming in fucking treacle. I don't believe you can't see my point.

It's beyond obvious.

 

[goldenecitrone]

I was in Brighton last weekend for the half marathon. When we got back to our hotel on Saturday night the lobby was full of Welsh women going on a hen do. OK, it's not quite a lap-dancing club, so I'll accept a £20 voucher instead.

 

[lizzieloo]

Is it the list of potential topics people might want to study is long that you can't include them all in the disclaimer?

No the list of people (journalists, students, market researchers, supermarket managers, librarians, penguin ticklers, child minders, teachers..............................................) doing research, that could be anyone.

 

[nosos]

I promise you the list of people who might end up doing research (in the formal sense involving structured methods) is not going to very long.

 

[lizzieloo]

I promise you the list of people who might end up doing research (in the formal sense involving structured methods) is not going to very long.

Only YOU don't understand the FAQs, just you.

 

[nosos]

supermarketers would pay market researchers
librarians would (usually) commossion academics (unless they were doing it internally)
child minders & teachers would be more likely to chat about their experience (as opposed to CONDUCT research on child minding and teaching). teacher training college are staffed by academic educationalists who do the research that gets taught.

 

[nosos]

Only YOU don't understand the FAQs, just you.

I have no idea what you're talking about. I understand the FAQ fine, I just think there's an obvious exception to it which, given the excipted group in question aren't welcome, it would be nice to actually say this explicitly rather than just start rounding on people when they get here.