No threat - a very reasonable conclusion reached about the consequences of extremely provocative behaviour.
Reclaim Brixton movement - meetings and April 25th protest planned
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David Clapson
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You're such an ignorant twonk.
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Starry Wisdom
and you're an effete and ineffectual handwringer with pretensions to erudition.
Try again; your next randomly inept attempt at typing might make sense.
Hi ern.
stethoscope
Well-Known Member
Don't be a nob eh?. This stuff is really important to peoples lives - and it affects posters such as Greebo especially. You might view how things reported by the media isn't too important, but when its so close to you it really is.
boohoo
No.
Ok so disagreements on the Simon Jenkins article. The event was misrepresented. hardly a first time for the press.
Greebo - step away from the computer - don't get angry - don't waste your precious energy on someone looking for a fight. He's one person - the march was seen in many different ways by many. It is always frustrating when you feel that something so close to your heart is written off as a load of old nonsense by some journalists. Take a breather - fight the real things that need to be fought and ignore those who don't have the heart to understand why you care so much about this issue. xxx
Greebo - step away from the computer - don't get angry - don't waste your precious energy on someone looking for a fight. He's one person - the march was seen in many different ways by many. It is always frustrating when you feel that something so close to your heart is written off as a load of old nonsense by some journalists. Take a breather - fight the real things that need to be fought and ignore those who don't have the heart to understand why you care so much about this issue. xxx
boohoo
No.
Nice language now please. Just tell him to stop being so heartless.
David Clapson
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Actually they are both violence, and there was no tear gas, it was pepper spray, a reasonable response to a crowd which could have taken over a major police station. Anyway, I doubt anyone wants me to repeat myself, I said all this upthread. (I also called for more violence, not less...but what's the point of repeating earlier posts?)
David Clapson
Well-Known Member
What on earth makes you think this is unimportant to me? If you bother to read my posts they are heartfelt because the community I love (and have contributed a great deal to) is being destroyed. I'm not a homeowner, I live in fear of having to leave the best community in the country.
boohoo
No.
Maybe you need to look at finding the common ground with others here instead of fighting every point. It's the causing arguments that is giving people grief. We will all have different opinions about the idea of Reclaim Brixton and how it has been reported because well, that's how people work.
The most important thing is to build on this united front to keep reminding the press and anyone else that will listen that this destruction of community is happening in Brixton and all over London.
stethoscope
Well-Known Member
Reading your posts, I truly don't know what you believe in and where you stand tbh.
But, anyway, I'll bow out.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
And just when I thought you couldn't get dumber...
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
When someone says something stupid in a personal conversation, and someone else takes offence, do you jump in "calm down, it's only a conversation"?
cuppa tee
Well-Known Member
likewise, but tbf it's probably not a good idea to state openly you want violence on the streets in a public forum........
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
You're conflating damage of property with violence against a person. The two aren't in any way comparable.
boohoo
No.
This is the internet and people do become quite different to what they are in real life (as well as people trolling). The level of ranting, aggressive behaviour and name calling would probably not be received so well if we were all sitting in a pub.
I wouldn't expect to say calm down it's only a conversation.
stethoscope
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cuppa tee
Well-Known Member
Apologies I was referring to the poster you quotedEr, I haven't?!
It's a troll.
CH1
"Red Guard"(NLYL)
Yes it was quite a positive article, I thought - if you read the whole text.Front page of today's SLP too.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
Great article for a tabloid that could easily have boosted sales by sensationalising the 'violence'
Gramsci
Well-Known Member
Jack is a good journalist.
On inside pages he covers the attempted eviction of long time resident in Clapham from house the Council want to auction off.
After seeing my photos of that in Brixton Buzz he rang me to ask about what happened.
He also rightly quotes Cyndi- who has done am amazing job- that the protest is about "Hypergentrification". Its now sections of the middle class who are also under threat.
The frustration is also at the political class. I notice the Council , when asked, keep repeating the line that the Council is" "working hard to harness" for residents opportunities from rapid changes to the area.
The feeling I get is that a lot of local residents and small business do not think a Labour Council sticking up for them.
A Council Officer recently said to me that Network Rail investing here would bring jobs and housing and that the shopkeepers in the arches had had there places cheap for years. My understanding of that conversation is that the Council are still talking to NR. That the small business will be shafted for the greater good as the Council see it.
What people are up against can be shown by the reaction to Ed Milibands mild proposals to reform the property market:
Never underestimate the opposition of big bourgeoisie to limitation of property rights to make profit. Sorry to bring in Marx again but private property is the basis of modern Capitalism.
David Clapson
Well-Known Member
The thing is, I've already found common ground IRL with the guy who did Foxton's window and the people who blocked the A23 to provoke the TSG and the people who tried to occupy the police station etc etc. I'll leave you guys to it and bow out of this thread - I thought I had some common ground with the likes of Gramsci who can see that rioting can have a positive effect, but perhaps not.
Gramsci
Well-Known Member
And so far Reclaim Brixton has been united front. Cyndi has played important role to keep disparate groups together. RB goes all the way from Black revolutionaries to small business owners.
boohoo
No.
People do like shouting a lot in here. I would suggest that you stay - just trying not to get into arguments! Everyone is entitled to air their opinion - we just (including myself) need to learn to not get into silly arguments that distract us from the important stuff.
boohoo
No.
Gramsci
Well-Known Member
Boohoo has been giving good advice on this thread.
I do not represent all Reclaim Brixton. Some were upset about the Foxtons as they felt it detracted from the positive things that happened that day.
CH1
"Red Guard"(NLYL)
As a mid-teen I was bowled over by the film Dr Zhivago.
That is the sort of housing policy I would expect from Soviet Russia.
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