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Ok,let the UK and US do the surveillance and targeting,most other NATO countries should be able to interlock with their systems,
In fact and as much as I detest the concept, let the EU take the lead in air support and humanitarian assistance as,TBH, the US can never regain the trust of the people of the ME, esp after their support of Israel in the ongoing GAZA crisis
i agree...also im still not sure the UN has approved this bombing. Didnt the US officially leave Iraq? Does the US just have a free pass to do what it wants over Iraq now?
The YPG have managed to open a corridor to get loads of Yazidis out
i saw mention of this road - any idea in which direction? I take it they're abandoning Iraq for the forseeable...
 
i agree...also im still not sure the UN has approved this bombing. Didnt the US officially leave Iraq? Does the US just have a free pass to do what it wants over Iraq now
TBH, not sure, I believe they justify it as answering a request from the Iraqi goverment/ Kurds and on the grounds of preventing 'genocide' (which, AFAIK, doesn't require UN authorisation)

i saw mention of this road - any idea in which direction? I take it they're abandoning Iraq for the forseeable...
 
Got any links?
Nothing beyond a series of confirmed unusual troop/security services deployments following first rumours of a coup for a few days then secondly the president criticising Maliki and vice versa and thirdly Maliki doing his best to block any and everything that would break the parliamentary blockage. He's running out of political friends. Everyone knows when he loses the protection of his position then he's either dead or in jail for the rest of his life - he knows it to too. All this fuels the rumours.
 
Ok,let the UK and US do the surveillance and targeting,most other NATO countries should be able to interlock with their systems,
In fact and as much as I detest the concept, let the EU take the lead in air support and humanitarian assistance as,TBH, the US can never regain the trust of the people of the ME, esp after their support of Israel in the ongoing GAZA crisis

Apart from a total lack of will to do it the EU air forces are now so tiny they could only sustain this sort of expeditionary warfare for a few days at best. Even that would only be possible if the US supplied all of the enabling functions the Europeans have declined to spend much money on: strat airlift, AAR, SIGINT, ELINT, SEAD, etc.
 
Didnt the US officially leave Iraq? Does the US just have a free pass to do what it wants over Iraq now?

Both Maliki and the Kurdish authorities have asked the US to intervene. I suppose that allows them to bypass all that tedious UN resolution stuff.
 
Nothing beyond a series of confirmed unusual troop/security services deployments following first rumours of a coup for a few days then secondly the president criticising Maliki and vice versa and thirdly Maliki doing his best to block any and everything that would break the parliamentary blockage. He's running out of political friends. Everyone knows when he loses the protection of his position then he's either dead or in jail for the rest of his life - he knows it to too. All this fuels the rumours.

Shia militiamen and security forces loyal to Mr Maliki reportedly appeared at key centres in Baghdad. There were no reports of violence.

Yet.
 
Both Maliki and the Kurdish authorities have asked the US to intervene. I suppose that allows them to bypass all that tedious UN resolution stuff.

your neighbour asks you to decorate his house, you agree - what business is it of the bloke who lives down the road?
 
your neighbour asks you to decorate his house, you agree - what business is it of the bloke who lives down the road?

None I suppose, but someone asked what right the US had to be weighing in. They're not invading, this time they're supporting what passes for a legitimate government.
 
None I suppose, but someone asked what right the US had to be weighing in. They're not invading, this time they're supporting what passes for a legitimate government.
i don't want to derail this thread with the issue, but i would expect international law doesnt just let you invite other countries armies in to bomb others within your borders....the UN is imperfect but I'd rather see an international response to this situation than one solely led by the US. who knows, maybe they do have the UNs rubber stamp, though I havent seen it mentioned anywhere. I would expect the UN to be orchestrating the process of stabilisation across the middle east, not US planners..though i appreciate in reality the UN is far from the executive power it might be in these kinds of situations.
 
i don't want to derail this thread with the issue, but i would expect international law doesnt just let you invite other countries armies in to bomb others within your borders....the UN is imperfect but I'd rather see an international response to this situation than one solely led by the US. who knows, maybe they do have the UNs rubber stamp, though I havent seen it mentioned anywhere. I would expect the UN to be orchestrating the process of stabilisation across the middle east, not US planners..though i appreciate in reality the UN is far from the executive power it might be in these kinds of situations.
It doesn't matter what you would expect or would like to see though - it's just nothing to do with the UN. That's all there is to it. Once the action was requested by the lawful Iraqi govt that's it. The more confusing legal aspect is whether Obama has the legal power to authorise the strikes as regards the US constitution.
 
Once the action was requested that's it.
Does that contravene international law? If Westminster requests France's airforce to bomb Scotland wouldn't international law require some kind of approval from the UN? I was under the impression it was the UN's security council alone thats in a position to authorise military action
 
i don't want to derail this thread with the issue, but i would expect international law doesnt just let you invite other countries armies in to bomb others within your borders....the UN is imperfect but I'd rather see an international response to this situation than one solely led by the US. who knows, maybe they do have the UNs rubber stamp, though I havent seen it mentioned anywhere. I would expect the UN to be orchestrating the process of stabilisation across the middle east, not US planners..though i appreciate in reality the UN is far from the executive power it might be in these kinds of situations.
this is "an international response", just not the sort of international response you think appropriate.
 
Does that contravene international law? If Westminster requests France's airforce to bomb Scotland wouldn't international law require some kind of approval from the UN? I was under the impression it was the UN's security council alone thats in a position to authorise military action
the un is not some clearing house for bombing requests
 
Does that contravene international law? If Westminster requests France's airforce to bomb Scotland wouldn't international law require some kind of approval from the UN? I was under the impression it was the UN's security council alone thats in a position to authorise military action
Where did you get that idea from? The UN can authorise military action by the relevant bodies against a state but it has sweet FA to do with with states actions within another state such as this.
 
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