Putins satan 2 dooms day

[LDC]

Did you read and understand what Eliot Higgins was saying about Chomsky there Elohim?

The anti war movement back then was more left wing .

Did you mean the left wing was more anti-war back then? Your posts are a bit baffling to me tbh.

And this stuff has been discussed at length on here.

 

[existentialist]

The good side you mean NATO USA imperialism er.

Now your agenda is beginning to show.

 

[Spandex]

I'm not totally opposed to the idea of letting them have battlefield nukes.

No.

 

[Elohim]

Never have I seen a more feeble attempt at straw clutching in my entire life it doesn't even deserve 0/10

Ukraine is definitely in the right here, no-one has claimed that pre-war Ukraine was a paradise but it is totally innocent in all this. When people protest against foreign wars, they're not protesting against the actual war, they are protesting against their own Govt's policy towards it. There are no protests against this war because despite the complete dogs dinner Rishi Rich and his buddies are making of everything else it seems to me that the vast majority of the public are behind them on this. Here in Sleepyville UK there are at least a dozen Ukrainian flags flying from houses in support. I have met actual Ukrainian refugees (all women and children by the way, their men have stayed to fight).
If it was up to me I would let them have F-22's never mind F-16's, I'm not totally opposed to the idea of letting them have battlefield nukes. For the first time since the Falkands War we are involved in a war where there is no question we are on the right side and it feels good.

Maybe in sleepyville UK people deep down object to nuclear conflict. Especially when it's to further NATO USA imperialism.

 

[rubbershoes]

Maybe in sleepyville UK people deep down object to nuclear conflict. Especially when it's to further NATO USA imperialism.

What are your thoughts on Russian imperialism?

 

[kebabking]

What are your thoughts on Russian imperialism?

 

[MickiQ]

Maybe in sleepyville UK people deep down object to nuclear conflict. Especially when it's to further NATO USA imperialism.

You do realise that every single member of NATO has joined because it wanted too right? Yours is the oddest definition of imperialism imagineable, bit like accusing my local publican of kidnapping people because they keep coming into the pub and buying his beer.

 

[NoXion]

Maybe in sleepyville UK people deep down object to nuclear conflict. Especially when it's to further NATO USA imperialism.

It's been Russia, not NATO or Ukraine, which has been rattling the nuclear sabre in this conflict.

 

[Tanya1982]

I think everyone's going about this Ukraine thing the wrong way. Why doesn't someone just take Putin aside and try to reach out to him as a human being, and ask him why he seems to be so angry? I'm sure he's a deeply unhappy man, and if approached the right way, he might just call off his forces and talk about it.

Funny you should say that. I’d love to have a torrid affair with Rishi Sunak, where I bend him to my service in all things - starting with a P45 for Suella negotiated during the lotus position. Felt similar about Saddam Hussain, who I thought was a tasty old devil from certain angles. Hard pass on Putin though.

 

[ouirdeaux]

There isn't enough mind bleach in the world, you know.

 

[MickiQ]

Funny you should say that. I’d love to have a torrid affair with Rishi Sunak, where I bend him to my service in all things - starting with a P45 for Suella negotiated during the lotus position. Felt similar about Saddam Hussain, who I thought was a tasty old devil from certain angles. Hard pass on Putin though.

Some fantasies are just better kept to yourself, let us never speak of this again.

 

[existentialist]

Well yes I am behind abit but catching up

In your dreams.

 

[Tanya1982]

Ok, but…


Those are movie star looks.

On to the thread itself, it seems self evident that it’s up to Ukraine what they want to do, and how they feel, and what direction they want to go in. It doesn’t seem like a morally complicated situation to me, so there’s not much to discuss or debate on that.

 

[FridgeMagnet]

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Could you please add some commentary to this explaining what the link is about and why you are posting it - this is a standard rule here. Thank you.

 

[jeff_leigh]

Here in Sleepyville UK there are at least a dozen Ukrainian flags flying from houses in support. I have met actual Ukrainian refugees (all women and children by the way, their men have stayed to fight).
If it was up to me I would let them have F-22's never mind F-16's, I'm not totally opposed to the idea of letting them have battlefield nukes. For the first time since the Falkands War we are involved in a war where there is no question we are on the right side and it feels good.

“their men have stayed to fight” Yeah Right, Google Ukrainian Draft Dodgers EU and there’s plenty of articles of Ukrainians who bribed their way out with false documents etc, Fucking NAFO Neckbeard

 

[ska invita]

we are on the right side and it feels good.

aaah that feel good war feeling

 

[wemakeyousoundb]

But what about Hunter Biden's laptop?

isn't that what putin is after?

 

[bcuster]

Never have I seen a more feeble attempt at straw clutching in my entire life it doesn't even deserve 0/10

Ukraine is definitely in the right here, no-one has claimed that pre-war Ukraine was a paradise but it is totally innocent in all this. When people protest against foreign wars, they're not protesting against the actual war, they are protesting against their own Govt's policy towards it. There are no protests against this war because despite the complete dogs dinner Rishi Rich and his buddies are making of everything else it seems to me that the vast majority of the public are behind them on this. Here in Sleepyville UK there are at least a dozen Ukrainian flags flying from houses in support. I have met actual Ukrainian refugees (all women and children by the way, their men have stayed to fight).
If it was up to me I would let them have F-22's never mind F-16's, I'm not totally opposed to the idea of letting them have battlefield nukes. For the first time since the Falkands War we are involved in a war where there is no question we are on the right side and it feels good.

No way I'd give Ukraine nukes of any sort...

 

[Elohim]

Maybe I'm stuck in the past didn't realise many in the left had now become very pro NATO. No wonder Keir Starmer managed to take hold of the labour party.

 

[Elohim]

Thank god we still have brave politicians like Claire Daly.

 

[existentialist]

Thank god we still have brave politicians like Claire Daly.

Maybe start a blog?

 

[Elohim]

Mick Wallace another brave strong politician speaking out re NATO.

The old left was not pro NATO.

 

[kebabking]

Mick Wallace is also a tax dodging property developer, and with Clare Daly the most quoted western politicians on Chinese state media.

Both have consistently voted against all sanctions on Russia.

Of course, being a student of history like all good 'leftists' you'll know that it was Labour who took the UK into NATO, and Labour who drove through the UK nuclear weapons program, and they have held to those commitments in every post war government they've formed.

Your version of the left - which is friends with every vile regime on the planet - are not labour, and you are not the left.

 

[krtek a houby]

Maybe start a blog?

He's a z-blogger, surely?

 

[krtek a houby]

Thank god we still have brave politicians like Claire Daly.

Fuck your god.

Also. Can you summarise these videos? Not enough time in the day.

 

[LDC]

He's a z-blogger, surely?

Just a stupid and predictable idiot.

 

[Aladdin]

Thank god we still have brave politicians like Claire Daly.

Oh dear. She is a complete idiot on this matter. She hasn't the guts to say she has made a massive mistake in judgement on this.

 

[Aladdin]

Mick Wallace another brave strong politician speaking out re NATO.

The old left was not pro NATO.

Ah come off it.
Mick & Claire run together on everything.
Putin is perfectly capable of wiping out Europe.
Also..if, as he says, Israel is wrong in what it does to Palestinians how can he then say Russia is right in what it's doing in Ukraine? This is on Russia..not NATO.
The whole "wake up" shite is annoying too..like we have ANY power to actually stop any of it.

 

[krtek a houby]

Never have I seen a more feeble attempt at straw clutching in my entire life it doesn't even deserve 0/10

Ukraine is definitely in the right here, no-one has claimed that pre-war Ukraine was a paradise but it is totally innocent in all this. When people protest against foreign wars, they're not protesting against the actual war, they are protesting against their own Govt's policy towards it. There are no protests against this war because despite the complete dogs dinner Rishi Rich and his buddies are making of everything else it seems to me that the vast majority of the public are behind them on this. Here in Sleepyville UK there are at least a dozen Ukrainian flags flying from houses in support. I have met actual Ukrainian refugees (all women and children by the way, their men have stayed to fight).
If it was up to me I would let them have F-22's never mind F-16's, I'm not totally opposed to the idea of letting them have battlefield nukes. For the first time since the Falkands War we are involved in a war where there is no question we are on the right side and it feels good.

Liked for the most part, apart from the "we" birthday and feel good factor.

Oh, and the nukes.

 

[existentialist]

Mick Wallace another brave strong politician speaking out re NATO.

The old left was not pro NATO.

This is boring old shit we've been around and around with months ago. These idiots you're fanboying have been utterly discredited, and Urban was a big part of the campaign to hoover up STW's tickets for their stupid conference last year.

So you're wasting your time here, if all you are going to do is preach at us.

If you actually want to engage, then that's a different matter.