Prometheus SPOILER thread

[magneze]

There wouldn't have been a squid bursting out of his stomach. The idea was that this event takes place in prehistoric times. The engineers/space jokeys don't start tampering with xenomorph DNA till many millennia later. What the crew witnesses and falls prey to is rough early versions of the creatures we come to know and love in the later Alien films.

Well, you just seem to have made that up to fit your idea of the story. Fair enough really, but it's not how I saw it.

 

[Badgers]

Well, you just seem to have made that up to fit your idea of the story. Fair enough really, but it's not how I saw it.

Are you suggesting or implying we should interpret things of this magnitude as individuals

 

[Orang Utan]

The sequence was the black goo went inside Holloway, Holloway went inside Shaw (creating the mutant facehugger fetus), the facehugger went inside the engineer (creating the mutant xeno fetus) and viola!

So humans and xenomorphs are essentially mutant Engineers?

And there's another thing - why do humans and Engineers have matching DNA?

 

[magneze]

But the amazing DNA sequence after the suicide wouldn't make any sense then, would it? Not that making any sense seems to be a priority here.

It still could be an act of suicide that just happened to facilitate the creation of life on earth. To me that still makes more sense than "I'll kill myself so that another different species appears on this random planet". The act of creation is not deliberate at all to my mind.

 

[Reno]

Well, you just seem to have made that up to fit your idea of the story. Fair enough really, but it's not how I saw it.

You are kidding right ?

We're you asleep for half of the film ?

 

[magneze]

Are you suggesting or implying we should interpret things of this magnitude as individuals

Not at all. This is an internet thread so there is clearly a set of absolute correct answers. I refer you to my posts for those.

 

[magneze]

You are kidding right ?

We're you asleep for half of the film ?

"The engineers/space jokeys don't start tampering with xenomorph DNA till many millennia later."
Totally made up and not in the film.

 

[Badgers]

Not at all. This is an internet thread so there is clearly a set of absolute correct answers. I refer you to my posts for those.

My eyes are wide open

 

[Orang Utan]

Well, you just seem to have made that up to fit your idea of the story. Fair enough really, but it's not how I saw it.

I think you saw it wrong. This was I think what was intended but the film is such a mess, that nothing is clear. You're certainly wrong about the opening sequence

 

[Reno]

"The engineers/space jokeys don't start tampering with xenomorph DNA till many millennia later."
Totally made up and not in the film.

That was what the film was about.

I give up, trying to explain the film to you seems utterly pointless.

 

[Orang Utan]

"The engineers/space jokeys don't start tampering with xenomorph DNA till many millennia later."
Totally made up and not in the film.

It is to be inferred, certainly. Tis not just out of Reno's head!

 

[magneze]

I think you saw it wrong. This was I think what was intended but the film is such a mess, that nothing is clear. You're certainly wrong about the opening sequence

So, I "misunderstood" it and enjoyed the film, seeing it as generally making enough sense for a popcorn Sci-Fi flick. Whereas the people picking holes were disappointed.

Being wrong has never seemed so right.

 

[magneze]

That was what the film was about.

I give up, trying to explain the film to you seems utterly pointless.

Patronizing much?

 

[Badgers]

I have watched a lot of films. Little surprises me and the film in question is no exception. The attention to detail is good and production values were top class. It is maybe a labour of love for RS but if I was him I would be doing similar.

 

[Orang Utan]

So, I "misunderstood" it and enjoyed the film, seeing it as generally making enough sense for a popcorn Sci-Fi flick. Whereas the people picking holes were disappointed.

Being wrong has never seemed so right.

I really liked it but it doesn't make any sense whatsoever.

 

[magneze]

I quite liked the optimistic tone of how much the human race had technologically evolved in 80 odd years from now. Less so that corporations were in the driving seat more so than ever.

 

[Orang Utan]

Magneze - did you not wonder at the film's title even a little bit?

 

[magneze]

What's to be implied from the title? It's a film about discovering the origins of the human race? Or is there a hidden message from the Greeks about Xenomorph DNA? Wikipedia doesn't say anything about that.

 

[Reno]

What's to be implied from the title? It's a film about discovering the origins of the human race? Or is there a hidden message from the Greeks about Xenomorph DNA? Wikipedia doesn't say anything about that.

It's really not that difficult to look up:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prometheus

Prometheus (Greek: Προμηθεύς) is a Titan, culture hero, and trickster figure who in Greek mythology is credited with the creation of man from clay and the theft of fire for human use, an act that enabled progress and civilization. He is known for his intelligence, and as a champion of mankind.[1]

 

[magneze]

And? Sorry, I'm missing the point there. The name is a link to the story which is about the creation of the human race. That's pretty clear.

 

[girasol]

I think you saw it wrong. This was I think what was intended but the film is such a mess, that nothing is clear. You're certainly wrong about the opening sequence

That's how I felt when I left the cinema, things were not clear - I mean, you could explain it in many ways and put your own interpretation on it, but really really a lot of made didn't make sense. Maybe it needs to be a book

 

[girasol]

And? Sorry, I'm missing the point there. The name is a link to the story which is about the creation of the human race. That's pretty clear.

It's about beings creating other beings, because they can and being god and stuff.

 

[magneze]

Did the Engineer's deliberately create life on Earth? Maybe I need to watch it again, but it's entirely possible that this was not a deliberate act IMHO.

 

[magneze]

It's about beings creating other beings, because they can

Ah, yes. Good link back to the conversation with David.

 

[Orang Utan]

And? Sorry, I'm missing the point there. The name is a link to the story which is about the creation of the human race. That's pretty clear.

Prometheus stole fire (ie technology) from the Gods and is punished horribly by them, who chain him to a rock to have his liver plucked out by an eagle. The myth is generally use to refer to man's technological hubris. Mary Shelley's Frankenstein has a subtitle of The Modern Prometheus and the film's premise reflects the plot of the novel

 

[magneze]

Ok, that's pretty interesting - thanks. I see how that links all the way through the film. Although I don't see how this revelation is helping my "misunderstanding" of the film.

 

[Orang Utan]

I'm not sure what your misunderstanding is any more!

 

[Orang Utan]

A friend wrote this:
http://jaredkelly.blogspot.co.uk/2012/06/thoughts-on-prometheus.html?m=1
Actually, that should be on the other thread....

 

[girasol]

I'm starting to think the whole thing was just a moralistic critique/warning re: human's genetic engineering ventures

 

[magneze]

I'm not sure what your misunderstanding is any more!

Well, I just have my interpretation of what happened. Others have theirs. The title seemed to be an answer to my "incorrect" interpretation for some reason. Whereas it really isn't.