Posh parents defend their child scrambling over Tate Modern scultpture

[goldenecitrone]

That photo shows everything that is wrong with Broken Britain.

A Great British success story, surely. Their company seems to be doing quite well.

 

[rubyblue89]

i cant decide what's worst about this. The fact that a kid playing on a sculpture has caused such a fuss, the woman who took the photo and tweeted it calling the kids horrible, or the fact that someone, somewhere valued 4 shelves on a wall at £10m. Who makes these decisions?

 

[wiskey]

i cant decide what's worst about this. The fact that a kid playing on a sculpture has caused such a fuss, the woman who took the photo and tweeted it calling the kids horrible, or the fact that someone, somewhere valued 4 shelves on a wall at £10m. Who makes these decisions?

All of those things are miserable

 

[Orang Utan]

Who knows where the time goes.This was them just 6 short years ago.

That photo is the most annoying thing I've ever seen.
I know it's his house and he can do what he wants, but he better get those grubby trainers off the sofa pronto or I am going to lose my cool.

 

[fishfinger]

That photo is the most annoying thing I've ever seen.
I know it's his house and he can do what he wants, but he better get those grubby trainers off the sofa pronto or I am going to lose my cool.

He's probably just being "anti-establishment".

 

[Orang Utan]

He's probably just being "anti-establishment".

I'd happily defenestrate the chap as a tip to his anti-establishment stance

 

[ddraig]

That photo is the most annoying thing I've ever seen.
I know it's his house and he can do what he wants, but he better get those grubby trainers off the sofa pronto or I am going to lose my cool.

can you torch his shit flag and cushion for me while you are there please? ta

 

[Lord Camomile]

Yes, these people sound like dicks, but why again is it about them being posh? Can't dicks just be dicks?

How can we hope for a classless society when we can't even have classless insults?

 

[Belushi]

You're not going to have a classless society by pretending class doesn't exist. Their sense of entitlement is fundamentally linked to their class.

 

[Belushi]

Weirdly, in real life I don't think I ever talk about class

 

[Puddy_Tat]

Yes, these people sound like dicks, but why again is it about them being posh? Can't dicks just be dicks?

How can we hope for a classless society when we can't even have classless insults?

You're not going to have a classless society by pretending class doesn't exist. Their sense of entitlement is fundamentally linked to their class.

pretty much ^ that.

something is fucked in that large chunks of the media encourage an "i'm more important than everyone else, the rules don't apply to me or my kids" attitude among the middle classes, then go on about "anti social behaviour / chavs / broken britain" if "the lower orders" adopt anything like the same attitude.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

The sculpture isn't really that exciting and hardly worth £10m.

There's an awful lot of dross in the Tate, especially when it comes to video installations. I'd happily let my children jump up and down on Nick Serota.
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http://mongolschinaandthesilkroad.blogspot.ca/2011/07/afghanistan-rebuilds-buddhist-statues.html
Didn't really look like the Buddha anyway?

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

When Henry Moore was told that some of his public sculpture was clambered over by children, he was reputed to have laughed at the appalled art critic who told him, and said "well, good for them, then!".

Most of Moore's large pieces are cast in bronze.

 

[DRINK?]

Don't know that they are posh? Rich without doubt though think he worked his way up from leaving school to junior fashion designer etc. Not sure at what bank balance Urbans bizarre classometer flicks from dictating someone is salt of the earth working class to sell out posh cunt

 

[butchersapron]

Don't know that they are posh? Rich without doubt though think he worked his way up from leaving school to junior fashion designer etc. Not sure at what bank balance Urbans bizarre classometer flicks from dictating someone is salt of the earth working class to sell out posh cunt

By worked his way up you mean attended an elite grammar school then went to university then was immediately made head of menswear at Reiss.

 

[chilango]

Class has nowt to do with bank balance.

 

[goldenecitrone]

By worked his way up you mean attended an elite grammar school then went to university then was immediately made head of menswear at Reiss.

That's what working your way up means.

 

[chilango]

That's what working your way up means.

Yeah!

Good on those hard grafting 10 year olds working their way up to elite grammar schools!

 

[butchersapron]

That's what working your way up means.

No it doesn't.

 

[goldenecitrone]

Does he come from a wealthy background, then? Or was he just a bright kid who got lucky with his schooling?

 

[spanglechick]

They're irritating, but i don't see a great deal wrong with the child's actions: children interact with things and it seems like a cool thing to do if you're small-child-sized.

the person taking and tweeting the photo is my number one cunt in this matter, i think.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Most of Moore's large pieces are cast in bronze.

Yes, Johnny. They are. Several of his public bronzes have been stolen over the past decade, because of the scrap value.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

They're irritating, but i don't see a great deal wrong with the child's actions: children interact with things and it seems like a cool thing to do if you're small-child-sized.

the person taking and tweeting the photo is my number one cunt in this matter, i think.

Looking at the sculpture, it appears to be painted. After 100 kids have climbed on it, it will be chipped and scuffed. A bronze sculpture can take it, but there are lots more delicate art pieces that probably won't stand up to repeated climbing etc over the years.

Yes, kids have a natural curiosity and desire to jump, climb etc. But part of a parent's job is teaching them that there are places where those things are inappropriate.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

Yes, Johnny. They are. Several of his public bronzes have been stolen over the past decade, because of the scrap value.

There's a Moore in a park relatively near here. I'm pretty sure they've bolted it down.

 

[ViolentPanda]

pretty much ^ that.

something is fucked in that large chunks of the media encourage an "i'm more important than everyone else, the rules don't apply to me or my kids" attitude among the middle classes, then go on about "anti social behaviour / chavs / broken britain" if "the lower orders" adopt anything like the same attitude.

And the media's friends in government legislate so that the working class can be punished beyond an ASBO (i.e. local authority powers to evict), whereas there's no such banishment power for homeowners who are nightmares, or whose children are nightmares.
I'm thinking some kind of compulsory-purchase order.

 

[ViolentPanda]

There's a Moore in a park relatively near here. I'm pretty sure they've bolted it down.

That doesn't, unfortunately, make any difference in an era of cordless grinders.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Looking at the sculpture, it appears to be painted. After 100 kids have climbed on it, it will be chipped and scuffed. A bronze sculpture can take it, but there are lots more delicate art pieces that probably won't stand up to repeated climbing etc over the years.

Yes, kids have a natural curiosity and desire to jump, climb etc. But part of a parent's job is teaching them that there are places where those things are inappropriate.

I agree. The gallery asks people not to touch stuff, and I think it's reasonable to make such a request. Even if you don't agree and think artworks should be climbed on, it is rude to ignore such a request. And yes, it is a parent's job sometimes to say no to a child.

I also agree with spanglechick that the photographer-tweeter is the cunt here. If they were pissed off with the child doing that, they should have spoken to the parents and if the parents had told them to get lost and they were still pissed off, they could have alerted an attendant. What they chose to do - put the incident on the internet - was cowardly and shit.

 

[brogdale]

This works on so many level as an outrage machine!

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/01/31/tate-modern-sculpture-par_n_4701588.html

Are neck scarves à la mode again?

In 1969 my mother bought me a rather fetching pink matching shirt & neck scarf combo from the Co-op Men's Outfitters.

 

[spanglechick]

Looking at the sculpture, it appears to be painted. After 100 kids have climbed on it, it will be chipped and scuffed. A bronze sculpture can take it, but there are lots more delicate art pieces that probably won't stand up to repeated climbing etc over the years.

Yes, kids have a natural curiosity and desire to jump, climb etc. But part of a parent's job is teaching them that there are places where those things are inappropriate.

So rope it off.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

So rope it off.

That's sort of the way the world is going: instead of people controlling their own impulses to touch the painting, or restraining their kids from situation-inappropriate behavior - put up fences and hire extra guards.


I guess this isn't the end of the world

but I remember the first time I saw it thinking 'what the fuck is wrong with people?'