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editor said:
You have already been warned once. Please stop because this kind of thing is just ruining this forum - and it has to stop.
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I entirely agree that it has to stop.
I'm also convinced that it won't, because some posters - usually the same handful - will always seek to criticise anything that you say/post.
 
ViolentPanda said:
I entirely agree that it has to stop.
I'm also convinced that it won't, because some posters - usually the same handful - will always seek to criticise anything that you say/post.
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Well, let's give it a go. I am quite determined to ensure that the same people making the same personal attacks week in and week out will change their behaviour.

I am fed up seeing threads about important topics being trashed by off-topic and/or disruptive personal beef that is of little interest to the vast majority of users .

The same applies to reported posts in this forum: anyone demanding that mods ban someone in their reported posts may find themselves being warned too.

Anyone wishing to discuss this further should take the matter to the feedback forum as it has nothing to do with Pop Brixton.
 
soupdragon said:
The council didn't "lie" - these 'coincidences' occurred within larger strategic contexts – which are based in part on the council preferring one constituent over another. You can overstate or understate the extent of a technical problem to fit. It was a judgement call about a shabby but functional car park that the council had run down for years to the extent that the top floor was out of bounds, but it still provided lots of parking space for people coming and buying their weekly food from the market. The council made a judgement about it based on both placating Tesco (and the council was over a barrel, they had done a survey of 10 or more potential sites - including an MI5 facility in Streatham!), and partly on a decision to see Brixton Market as shifting away from a working market that provided food staples (as the market traders claimed it should be - and strongly - they shut their shops and marched on the town hall over it), and more to a leisure market that catered to a more middle class audience. The technical issues about the overall unfitness of the car park were then just a part of justifying those larger strategic decisions. The council didn't see the market traders as having history on their side (i.e. of being able to mount a sufficiently damaging campaign against them), and a report about a car park just gave that a technically justifiable basis.
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Sometimes a car park is just a car park.
 
There's still a car park of sorts on Brixton Station Road isn't there? Next to Pop Brixton. I've walked past it loads of times.
 
proper vibrant. who saw the authentic tin container social club thing. it's like something out of cuba 'n shit. Random! this vibrant hub is AWESOME.

close the city.

culture in this once glorious city is dying.

i still think this all went wrong when speedy noodles went.
 
soupdragon said:
The council didn't "lie" - these 'coincidences' occurred within larger strategic contexts – which are based in part on the council preferring one constituent over another. You can overstate or understate the extent of a technical problem to fit. It was a judgement call about a shabby but functional car park that the council had run down for years to the extent that the top floor was out of bounds, but it still provided lots of parking space for people coming and buying their weekly food from the market. The council made a judgement about it based on both placating Tesco (and the council was over a barrel, they had done a survey of 10 or more potential sites - including an MI5 facility in Streatham!), and partly on a decision to see Brixton Market as shifting away from a working market that provided food staples (as the market traders claimed it should be - and strongly - they shut their shops and marched on the town hall over it), and more to a leisure market that catered to a more middle class audience. The technical issues about the overall unfitness of the car park were then just a part of justifying those larger strategic decisions. The council didn't see the market traders as having history on their side (i.e. of being able to mount a sufficiently damaging campaign against them), and a report about a car park just gave that a technically justifiable basis.
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They're right, sadly. The car park could go because the fruit/veg street market has lost relevance and popularity as unimaginative traders have been running it into the ground for years. While other markets appear able to thrive- cheaper, better range and (to my eye) better quality, Brixton remains expensive, tired and dull, with an almost seasonally unaffected consistency. People used to come from all over, as they gradually gave up the car park became an increasingly redundant eyesore. That's the tragedy.

Now people come from all over for something different, and not by car. The traders are going to notice at some point.
 
newbie said:
They're right, sadly. The car park could go because the fruit/veg street market has lost relevance and popularity as unimaginative traders have been running it into the ground for years. While other markets appear able to thrive- cheaper, better range and (to my eye) better quality, Brixton remains expensive, tired and dull, with an almost seasonally unaffected consistency. People used to come from all over, as they gradually gave up the car park became an increasingly redundant eyesore. That's the tragedy.

Now people come from all over for something different, and not by car. The traders are going to notice at some point.
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Some of my neighbours prefer the Elephant and Castle market.
 
han said:
That video is terrible. Toecurling. It actually makes me want to steer well clear of the place.
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Toecurling and dull. I couldn't finish it.

Talking to the traders in there is more interesting. For example:

The Mexican-Polish couple from Brixton road who do tacos and had been trading on Station rd for a couple of years.

As had the Koi Ramen people.

And then there's the French-African guy from Paris who does pretty decent jerk and salt cod.
 
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