After naming her in a fucking poem after everything had been silent & ok for fucking weeks, man, ffs
Like, the "public apology" would've been totally, completely, and utterly unnecessary if you hadn't brought it all up again, Meth!
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Like, the "public apology" would've been totally, completely, and utterly unnecessary if you hadn't brought it all up again, Meth!
You know what METH LAB, you and your mate cheesy don't usually register on my radar, I don't do high maintenance losers. However, when you have a go at one of my friends, a thoroughly decent woman, I take exception.
I'm not asking you to stop, in fact I'd love you to carry on making an utter arse of yourself.
You are a complete waste of space whereas soj is a lovely, kind, generous and totally sound woman. Keep on digging.
I'm not asking you to stop, in fact I'd love you to carry on making an utter arse of yourself.
You are a complete waste of space whereas soj is a lovely, kind, generous and totally sound woman. Keep on digging.
at least i gave an apology.
and i didnt name her i used stars s** , ok maybe i named her..big deal, she got issues aint my fault.
she alot more angry than me and got one fuckin hell of an attitude. She cliams im nothing but a pieice a shit but goes into a spazzing fit.
maybe if she just wrote a poem instead of getting all huff and puff this wouldant be 'appnin.
but she wont, coz she cant, and she hassant accepted my 3 apologies so thats her issue not mine.
im EZ like sunday morning, she angry and messed up about it, i think her head space is alot worse than mine right now.
anyways i was loging off..and i did..and then popped back in and noticed you had posted, and i got quaoted on the DF aswell so imma look at that and thats me done for the night
peace
and i didnt name her i used stars s** , ok maybe i named her..big deal, she got issues aint my fault.
she alot more angry than me and got one fuckin hell of an attitude. She cliams im nothing but a pieice a shit but goes into a spazzing fit.
maybe if she just wrote a poem instead of getting all huff and puff this wouldant be 'appnin.
but she wont, coz she cant, and she hassant accepted my 3 apologies so thats her issue not mine.
im EZ like sunday morning, she angry and messed up about it, i think her head space is alot worse than mine right now.
anyways i was loging off..and i did..and then popped back in and noticed you had posted, and i got quaoted on the DF aswell so imma look at that and thats me done for the night
peace
But she does write poems, she gets published, she wins awards.....
You have the problem, not her
GarfieldLeChat
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it's entirely possible to apologise for some reacting badly whilst not believing you did something wrong. yes. it's called manners.
do you believe that the offended person is always right?
how about if you offend Nick Griffin by saying something about racial equality he disagrees with? does that make him right, would apologising to him because you have to be in the same location as them and have as adults to continue to occupy the same space so again as adults you can move on mean you were wrong?
Seemingly here and in general in society today we make the presumption if someones offended then they are right and the other person or thing is wrong.
this isn't true in life or here.
You have the right to be offended. Not you are offended and therefore right.
An apology has been made. either it's accepted or it isn't.
it still isn't up to others to mob handedly decide the offence requires greater contrition that has been given.
even if the person offended believes this to be true then it doesn't mean it's required.
we are adults we do not need every slight or injury pandered too, molly coddled, or kissed better.
often people would do well to remember their age. And act accordingly.
there are far to many toys out of the pram and bandwagon jumpers over this on this thread and it's not helping.
an apology has been made.
it's up to soj if it's accepted.
If not time to move on for all concerned.
end of discussion on the subject.
unless you are too immature to act like a reasonable adult and in which case who the hell wants to entertain childish behaviour in adult conversation.
grow up, get over yourselves, it's the fucking internet.
Jesus...
GarfieldLeChat
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shirl you comments on this thread aren't helping and seem to be arguing points not being made... you're making yourself look silly in defence of a mate.
stop it. please
GarfieldLeChat
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this is pathetic and you should know better...
TruXta
tired
it's entirely possible to apologise for some reacting badly whilst not believing you did something wrong. yes. it's called manners.
do you believe that the offended person is always right?
how about if you offend Nick Griffin by saying something about racial equality he disagrees with? does that make him right, would apologising to him because you have to be in the same location as them and have as adults to continue to occupy the same space so again as adults you can move on mean you were wrong?
Seemingly here and in general in society today we make the presumption if someones offended then they are right and the other person or thing is wrong.
this isn't true in life or here.
You have the right to be offended. Not you are offended and therefore right.
An apology has been made. either it's accepted or it isn't.
it still isn't up to others to mob handedly decide the offence requires greater contrition that has been given.
even if the person offended believes this to be true then it doesn't mean it's required.
we are adults we do not need every slight or injury pandered too, molly coddled, or kissed better.
often people would do well to remember their age. And act accordingly.
there are far to many toys out of the pram and bandwagon jumpers over this on this thread and it's not helping.
an apology has been made.
it's up to soj if it's accepted.
If not time to move on for all concerned.
end of discussion on the subject.
unless you are too immature to act like a reasonable adult and in which case who the hell wants to entertain childish behaviour in adult conversation.
grow up, get over yourselves, it's the fucking internet.
Jesus...
WHOOOOOOOSH
GarfieldLeChat
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plane takes off
GarfieldLeChat
fucking awesome but wrong
seriously truxta think about it the public ownership of offence is way out of hand from extremis such as diana and the like to minor facebook rivalries and internet spats...
I know meth well enough to see he meant no genuine offence to soj but was trying to goad her in to contributing on his thread, he's being a bit manic at the moment and thats how he can be.
I know from soj's posts previously she takes offence sometimes and makes minor things into a bigger issue than the really are, that's how she can be.
what isn't helping either side is the stirring so people should for the good of both step back.
either they'll sort it or not.
it's not like someones died and there's a murder poster a did poster b a favour and feels this was taken advantage of poster b thought they could get poster a to contribute in a more public fashion than they did.
end of argument.
unless holding grudges and martyring ones self is really the aim of the game...
everyone should grow up.
I know meth well enough to see he meant no genuine offence to soj but was trying to goad her in to contributing on his thread, he's being a bit manic at the moment and thats how he can be.
I know from soj's posts previously she takes offence sometimes and makes minor things into a bigger issue than the really are, that's how she can be.
what isn't helping either side is the stirring so people should for the good of both step back.
either they'll sort it or not.
it's not like someones died and there's a murder poster a did poster b a favour and feels this was taken advantage of poster b thought they could get poster a to contribute in a more public fashion than they did.
end of argument.
unless holding grudges and martyring ones self is really the aim of the game...
everyone should grow up.
TruXta
tired
That's not my point at all. I don't really care that much who was in the right or wrong, my only point was that what Meth offered was a non-apology, and he'd have been better off not bothering at all rather than offering an "I'm sorry if you were offended" thing, which isn't an apology at all. If you can't see why that's not an apology there's not much I can say tbh.
GarfieldLeChat
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you've read meths pm's then?
more to the point what business is it of yours stop stirring... jesus...
TruXta
tired
I've read the two threads in question - where have I mentioned pms'? As for what business it is of mine - it's on this forum, so whoever wants it to be their business can make it so. Have another coffee before you post eh?
GarfieldLeChat
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christ this is like explaining science to christians...
an apology has been made publicly (boards) and privately (pm) the offence isn't yours to take on another's behalf so please grow up.
I have no interest in feeding your need for attention and satisfaction. so be an adult and move on.
GarfieldLeChat
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Your confusing offering and acceptance.You don't know what offering an apology means do you?
TruXta
tired
Nope.
GarfieldLeChat
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you really are now drop it and post on topic. or hush.
GarfieldLeChat
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fine
Truxta thinks offence is public property
who demands for others an apology
on this they believe they have the monopoly
but then decides it hasn't been done properly
because their mind is full of fuckwittery
so they can get the hump vicariously
really they symptomatic of what's wrong in our society
GarfieldLeChat
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behave you cock woggle...Has METH accused soj of being cloud yet ?
GarfieldLeChat
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name change?
Well, this has been really unpleasant reading. 'Brain dead lesbian vegetable'. Nice. Oh, and noted, Killer B - that surprised me, have to say.
I haven't attacked Methlab ONCE on grounds of anything to do with his mental health or physical or personal characteristics. He has ripped me to shreds in my absence. It has been like trying to communicate with a contrary small child with no memory though - I will say that now. I feel I can, somehow.
I seriously wish I had never offered that critique in the first place. I only did it because I genuinely thought Methlab was interested in writing and developing that writing, and he had repeatedly called for feedback. My experience on the poetry 'scene' has shown me that so many poets have mental health/drug/drink problems (myself included) and that it can be hugely cathartic and life-changing. I offered TONS of advice, answered so many of his questions, offered genuine encouragement and support via PM. I challenge anyone not be angered by his responses in light of that.
For the record, the 'goon' remark was intended to be light-hearted. Has ANYONE ever known me to use 'goon', when there's a perfectly good 'cunt' to offend people with? Does anyone really think 'goon' is an insult?!
Methlab has offered apologies, yes, but as already pointed out in my absence, they are not genuine apologies. How can they be when they are accompanied by a backhanded 'you are also to blame' message? Plus, it was a cut and paste of the third person public 'apology', not a personal one. Call me picky if you like. As for the increasing virulence shown in Methlab's posts...well...I just wish I'd never bothered.
Yes, I DID tell him to shove it up his arse. Know why? Because he did not genuinely apologise, and all that he has said about me just serves to support that belief. This may sound daft, but the whole thing is, so I'll just carry on and say he had also 'liked' every single one of Cheesypoof's posts that seriously laid into my character. This added to my belief that it is not a genuine apology. Now, I don't know if this managed to pass y'all by, but I fell in love a couple of years ago, and also started writing, and have been incredibly happy, and CALM. Friends have actually commented on it, missing my old irate bad-tempered-bastard days. I did lose it with Meth, but that's covered further up in this post ^^ I do still lose my temper, but it's incredibly rare these days - takes something real annoying to bring it out of me.
I apologised to Methlab in my very first PM to him about the initial remark of 'you won't like it'. That's public - it's up on this very thread.
So - I didn't 'insult him first', and I did apologise, genuinely.
This has only kicked off again because he named me in a post, after it had all died down.
Garfield - you are telling Shirl to stop defending a mate. I suggest you follow your own advice.
And that's it really.
I haven't attacked Methlab ONCE on grounds of anything to do with his mental health or physical or personal characteristics. He has ripped me to shreds in my absence. It has been like trying to communicate with a contrary small child with no memory though - I will say that now. I feel I can, somehow.
I seriously wish I had never offered that critique in the first place. I only did it because I genuinely thought Methlab was interested in writing and developing that writing, and he had repeatedly called for feedback. My experience on the poetry 'scene' has shown me that so many poets have mental health/drug/drink problems (myself included) and that it can be hugely cathartic and life-changing. I offered TONS of advice, answered so many of his questions, offered genuine encouragement and support via PM. I challenge anyone not be angered by his responses in light of that.
For the record, the 'goon' remark was intended to be light-hearted. Has ANYONE ever known me to use 'goon', when there's a perfectly good 'cunt' to offend people with? Does anyone really think 'goon' is an insult?!
Methlab has offered apologies, yes, but as already pointed out in my absence, they are not genuine apologies. How can they be when they are accompanied by a backhanded 'you are also to blame' message? Plus, it was a cut and paste of the third person public 'apology', not a personal one. Call me picky if you like. As for the increasing virulence shown in Methlab's posts...well...I just wish I'd never bothered.
Yes, I DID tell him to shove it up his arse. Know why? Because he did not genuinely apologise, and all that he has said about me just serves to support that belief. This may sound daft, but the whole thing is, so I'll just carry on and say he had also 'liked' every single one of Cheesypoof's posts that seriously laid into my character. This added to my belief that it is not a genuine apology. Now, I don't know if this managed to pass y'all by, but I fell in love a couple of years ago, and also started writing, and have been incredibly happy, and CALM. Friends have actually commented on it, missing my old irate bad-tempered-bastard days. I did lose it with Meth, but that's covered further up in this post ^^ I do still lose my temper, but it's incredibly rare these days - takes something real annoying to bring it out of me.
I apologised to Methlab in my very first PM to him about the initial remark of 'you won't like it'. That's public - it's up on this very thread.
So - I didn't 'insult him first', and I did apologise, genuinely.
This has only kicked off again because he named me in a post, after it had all died down.
Garfield - you are telling Shirl to stop defending a mate. I suggest you follow your own advice.
And that's it really.
i love making an arse of myself
i love to be the clown
lets look at what ive done here
mayber whilst having a beer
for the last 10 years i have spent all my time in that fuckin drug forum trying to HELP people.
And i do help some of them coz they tell me i help them
I even made a leaflet corrected, for some bunch of people that were giving out harm reduction leaflets..they wanted my advise, they got it, they asked if i wanted to put my name to it, i said nah just put MethLab from U-75..i dunno if they did or not i was supposed to get a copy but i think they went under coz they wernt really doing anything in the first place except making leaflets that wernt quite factual.
what do you do exactly? i dont even know who you are, your name means nothing to me at all.
as for soj, like ive allready said for about the 100'th time she had 3 apologies, she wont accept them, and she knows she cant rhyme
poetry awards? LOL
what...'walk to the shops' and shit like that? thats been done by a billion people allready its really low grade stuff
yea i got up today and went out to the shops
oh look, a duck!
well since its raining i guess
my name is soj im a terrible mess
i get so uptight and angry
i consider myself old and wise
but really im just old
and my shit poetry is like having a bad cold
oh look, some people on peddle bikes
scooters and trikes
walking to the shop for some booze to fuel my anger
i cant let go of MethLab he's such a wanker
but oh really its just me
im loosing this shit like completaly
i cant rhyme for shit
i claim to be a poet
those awards i won
were probably just to stop self harm from being done
they must pitty me
poor old me on the way to the shop
for some booze and rizzlas, yea need a hard liquor shot
im smoke too much weed
could be the reason why im so fuckin mental
shit i walked str8 past the shop
oh well aint the first time that happened
oh look, a duck!
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get the fuck outta here allready lol walk to the shops be fucked i was penning that kinda shit when i was 12
go fuck yaself, or help ya m8 out
she obviously needs it
so take these words and heed it
you fuckin cunt faced fuckin wanker
off ya rader? thank fuck for that
wouldant wanna be seen by such a twat
once again, im laffing my ass off
i got talant all she got is a pass off
if i jumped up on stage and choked some mics
ide get awards to... but im kinda ill
in both my head and body, and lyrical skill
maybe i buy myself a bike
so i wouldant have to walk to the fuckin shops all night
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and for all of y'all that dunno which wallet is mine
its the one that says 'bad mutha fucka' and its full of rymes
lol
thanks for giving me a good mood
prick lol i love this shit im spitting all over you your making me laff like i aint laffed like this for fuckin ages
you cannot insult me no more im to dangerous
like i say they just bounce off... or set me on one
and when im on one you better duck son
attacking you with words i find it so much fun
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and whats more im actually on topic!
just to clarify, I didn't think it was a nice touch. Apols if the sarcasm wasnt totally apparent.
you did one critic..not really TONS of advise.
and i can like anybodys post that i want
i shoved my apology up my arse and shat at out this morning.
this is really geting boring
get over it soj just let it go
if your so older and wiser
then you should know to let it go
but you cant can ya
coz your full of anger
maybe a hot bath?
whilst i still laff?
your called me all kinds of shit in pm's but your gonna deny that most likely
and so what if i liked cheesy's posts? dont mean the apology wassant meant..i meant it..not no more though, i was gonna go lower, and rip ya to pieices, but the state your in i'll just leave you alone, maybe call a mate and have a cry down the phone?
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